Brokers, Please explain the plummeting rates these days.

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by BigMoose, Jun 8, 2022.

  1. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    It’s unfortunate for sure and your right. This customer I have a 7 yr relationship with and have worked my tail off to be exclusive with them. Come Monday by 9am if it’s not there we’ll contact law enforcement and likely the fbi as certain freight you just don’t play games with. Our reputation goes a long way but situations like this allows for opportunity for companies to creep in. It’s a bummer though as the stuff that consistently pays good is of upmost importance.
     
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  3. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    Dang man well sorry for ur luck. That's a ####ty thing to have happen. Let us know what ends up happening if you don't mind? I'm really interested in that side of the business and how things work when the #### hits the fan in situations like that
     
  4. Midwest Trucker

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    Will do, chances are they may still deliver tomorrow but what sucks is the unknown. Here I am thinking about it during my “time off” on a Friday night. They probably think who cares, it’s just a stupid broker. (Kinda my point in a sense) we all gotta work together and do upstanding business. Sure, there are big companies out there but thousands of just regular people like me and you trying to do our best.
     
  5. D.Tibbitt

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    100% agree. I hate being in that position as well, wondering the unknown. Seems a good majority don't take pride in doing good business. Informing all parties what's going on if there's problems. Communicating effectively. Nobody whether carrier,customer or broker should ever be wondering where their freight is at and what its doing... seems most of the time I am fighting just to get effective communication from the other parties. I'm sure u deal with that same crap but on a much bigger scale. Frustrating for sure. Very simple stuff were talking about here but proves time and time again to be an impossible task for some
     
  6. Short Fuse EOD

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    I’d hit them on freight guard. Unacceptable not to communicate. Tired of seeing garbage carriers flood our industry. Had to move twice in truckstop away from air dryers going off every 30 seconds. Nothing but equipment and companies held together by bungie straps.
     
  7. PureLeafTea

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    The problem today is it costs $1 a MILE to go anywhere. $6 a gallon, 6mpg… it’s not hard math folks.

    We have never seen SKY HIGH diesel and LOW rates. I can’t believe trucking companies are eating the cost so that’s not it. I can’t believe shippers aren’t paying more so that’s not it. I can’t believe we have a truck shortage when fuel islands are often stacked two deep so that’s not it. Cost of everything is up and shipping costs aren't up as well? Please. $6 diesel should mean $6 a mile freight. That’s the math on that.

    It’s not so little loads and too many trucks because that would mean less miles being driven which would lower demand for diesel and tank prices.

    I do think brokers are keeping more. I refuse to believe in this day of $6 a gallon diesel, $150,000 trucks and $78,000 dry vans loads are paying so little and companies/O/Os are fine with that. No someone is paying and someone is also taking a big ol’ slice. We’re in the podcast YouTube era. Make money doing nothing. The American way. Sit on your butt do no work except answering a phone or email and half the time the #### brokers can’t even do that and get paid while the driver does all the work, pays for the fuel, is away from home for weeks at a time, etc.

    I do think diesel is about to run dry though and prices are probably being kept high for that reason. Given what oil is at per barrel diesel should NOT be this high. Our inventory of diesel is down to 3 DAYS. Meaning any disruption and that’s it. 3 days and stores will be empty. Oil reserves are down to 27 days. Lowest EVER. Imagine if New Jersey stores and gas stations started running out of things because trucks weren’t rolling? Can you say riots? Can you say massive civil unrest? Now imagine the entire country. Canada. Mexico. Across the globe. You get the idea.

    Next DEF. We’re almost out of it. It’s worse than the diesel shortage. No DEF. No trucks rolling. See above.

    Bottomline: NOTHING and I mean NOTHING makes sense anymore. And it’s all about to collapse because nobody big or small can operate this way. Parts shortages, insane prices for equipment and repairs, insane fuel prices… it all spells DISASTER and then comes you guessed it…

    the REVOLUTION. So get ready folks. Screw their Great Reset. Not without a fight I say. The New World won’t be built by the chosen. It will be built by the survivors. The soldiers. The ones who fight.

    Are you ready???
     
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  8. bonder45

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    Here’s some of the reasons why loads are going for so cheap….

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  9. PureLeafTea

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    Full disclosure time. Post what you are getting paid on this load and what the load pays (and be HONEST for once.) And thinking during your “time off.” Lol Please. At least your home. At least you sleep in your big bed, can shower whenever, brush your teeth in a sink not some dirty Pilot or into an old McDonald’s cup, etc.
     
  10. Midwest Trucker

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    You have someone being honest on a forum when they don’t have to be at all and all you can think of are thoughts of resentment. I started with absolutely nothing and don’t owe you anything.

    Maybe you should be honest with yourself and reconsider this business if you’re so upset at what others are doing. I mean that sincerely.
     
  11. PSM379

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    Trust me if DEF runs out there will be plenty of trucks able to run.
     
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