CBD oil

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  1. scott180

    scott180 Road Train Member

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    I was at Dependable Oxygen Co yesterday for medical equipment I needed and saw they sold CBD oil. It is $100 for a little bottle and since this is a reputable medical supply store I figured that it should be better than the cheap stuff you get at the mall. I told her that I have a CDL and asked if it was safe to use. She said absolutely NO. Even though the stuff they sell is laboratory tested it still shows on some drug panels positive for THC. She added that they haven’t been able to find out why this is happening on some tests.

    A friend who does not have a CDL was tested at work and came back positive but fortunately they know him and the only consequence was the boss laughing at him. He is an older man who due to his religious beliefs has never so much as took a swallow of beer. Good thing the boss knows him so well. He was using the mall stuff that said it has no THC in it.

    Everything I’ve heard about CBD oil says it works miracles on aches and pains but if you are the unlucky one that gets that odd test that shows positive you are SOL and your CDL is gone. That can be a full year of someone else having to drive you to the store, to your new lower paying job or anywhere else you need to go. And then on to a second chance trucking job. Sound fun?

    Just a heads up not to trust even the ones that say they are safe on the bottle.
     
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  3. tscottme

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    The thing to know about ANY products sold as health or nutritional supplements is THERE IS NO REGULATION ON THEM. Health and nutritional supplements are specifically exempted from the normal regulations that cover aspirin, prescription drugs, and food. They can literally sell you sawdust pills and suggest that sawdust regrows hair, fights cancer, boosts your vehicle fuel economy, allows you to talk to dead loved ones.

    The only requirements on these products (CBD or any other) is it not cause instant death and it not market itself as a cure. "Sawdust pills support your body's ability to communicate with the dead, grow hair, stop cancer, increase fuel economy, etc" is a legal way to advertise the product. As long as they don't claim the product CURES any disease or condition they are legal.

    Once you spot the "supports your body's blah, blah, blah" you know you are being sold unicorn dust.
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    My pain clinic sells CBD its cash 115 a bottle. I had a palsy hit me last year in the hand from trucking while trying to sign a form. They put a drop on it and poof palsy gone bye bye. Nice.

    The thing is this. They do extreme drug testing HUNTING for THC and everything else several times a year. IF they found ANY THC in my system from their own oil sourced in Little Rock and via Colorado for raw material, we all will have to go to jail. I think they are required to be 0.03% or less which is very little to nothing. The right plants protected from male pot plants will have no THC contamination. And therein lies the problem A gust of wind can pollinate a field of them from male POT plants with THC spreading through them by pollination.

    You walk in or order a oil from a maker who does not control THC you are going to take on enough THC from that bad oil to fail a DOT test against your CDL. And that would be that.

    In my state you can slater on CBD oil and keep on trucking. So they say. But its not wise. Or smart to do so. Its legal for cars provided you do not have any THC in it to affect your eyes, balance etc creating a DUI situation to get you arrested, fined a minimum of 10,000 dollars to start and a complete seizure of your vehicle. The state owns it forever now regardless of it's ownership or financial situation.

    I keep a small amount on hand for palsys which is the worst thing because I require the hands to have that fine motor and tactile control to work on tiny things at home. I used to think that being shaky at times in the hands was a normal part of old iron trucking if you did it as long as I have. But that CBD oil is pretty good.

    I only buy it at the pain center. Who also continues to test me against THC and other things way beyond the 7 panel DOT drug test. All of my tests have been clean outside of known drugs that are already prescribed and in or not in my system depending on if I see them after the drugs cleared out of me past refill date on the 31st day.

    I do not consider myself a pain patient, but I do take two other medicines that does improve my quality of life for the time being until we can try several surgeries in the future to fix problems.

    The FDA maintains a list of known THC free CBD oil makers in the USA and they regulate the market. Otherwise THC as in pot is a schedule one drug at the DEA level and illegal for trucking.

    When I use the word regulate, I point you to late 1800's history prior to the creation of FDA when many people used morphine, cocaine, herion and so forth which was legal in those days hidden in snake oil quakery drugs to sell you for a dollar. And wonder why your family is half drugged and addicted when you do not continue to purchase the things that have the strong drugs off label inside of them. Thats where the FDA was created around the WW1 era to fight that quackery among other things like bad meats etc.

    And that is where the risk lies. Pot growers try to grow very particular female plants for CBD oil. If there is any male plants in range of that grow and manages to pollunate it boom. THC laced Oil. And boom you wonder what the hell happened on your last hot drug screen later this year.

    So... Trucking? CBD oil = Dangerous. Thats my verdict.
     
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  5. scott180

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    Glad to hear it helps you. Interesting how THC in the plants works. I have some nerve damage and if I don't go back into trucking I'm going to use CBD to help with that. It just sucks that these companies sell this stuff as NO THC and some poor driver has there career taken from them and are labeled a pot head.
     
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  6. Snow Monster

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    I think you have that backwards.
    Growers don't want the male plants near the female plants because they will cause them to go to seed and obliterate the potential THC level, not so much the CBD levels.

    You have a few basic markets for the plant, fibre, food, seed oil, medical, recreational and the plants for each use are different, other than they are from the same family of plants, like tomatoes are fruit, not vegetables.
    Hemp is not cannabis and sativa is not indica.

    This is 60 acres of oil seed crop, could probably eat and smoke the whole field and you wouldn't get a buzz.
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  7. x1Heavy

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    I have smoked pot twice before 21 in my life as a experiment with some really crazy friends in that era. Its not my flavor. ugh. (It happens...) yuck actually.

    I also do whatever I can falling back on what my grandparents and those before them taught the family growing up. BEFORE I buy into modern quackery like CBD oil and such. That palsy incident was a eye opener for me. And so this old incorrigible shaky SOB sings praises of that stuff. Very small drops mind you.

    And that was a experiment too. I am not prepared to bathe or swim in the stuff. I just don't know what it will do to my CNS (Central Nervous System) which I happen to like very much thank you very much.... (Migraines from big changes against CNS and really bad ones require Demerol IM at the ER, and the last one I had was back in '14. That was a bad day. I had another a week ago that put me down on the floor which is essentially cement for about 40 hours. If it had progressed any further I would have gone to the ER that second day.

    Sometimes I am tempted to put a little CBD on that. Who knows?

    I usually am game to try new things once. If it's good Im back on it. If not? Forget it. Ive always been this way. Same with Dispatchers wanting me to take on a new type of loading onto the 18 wheeler now and then. Usually fail to inform me of a twist.

    But I will not go out of my way to say this stuff is awesome or anything stupid like that. I use it only to fight the palsy that comes on several times a month. You would think that would be some kind of DOT nuerological condition. I don't know and don;t aim to sink a bunch of money (Or as we say here in Arkansas... Spin money...) to find out if its valid or not.
     
  8. x1Heavy

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    It would not be the first time I have something backwards in life. If I over think something its going to be backwards. Somewhere there is a term for that but it escapes me at the moment. HA....

    Ty for taking the time to write.
     
  9. Snow Monster

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    No sweat, I get a lot of things backwards myself.

    Tell you what I do know about cannabis from a medical standpoint, it's effective in reducing and in some cases even eliminating epileptic seizures.
    I have a friend who suffered from seizures and when he started smoking weed the frequency of his seizures was drastically reduced, almost to nil.
     
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    Smoking weed, while it is the fastest delivery system short of injection, will open you up to other risks. Like respiratory problems for instance.
    Ingestion of one sort or another may be helpful.
    Suppository is unpopular with weed, but may also speed up delivery. :)
     
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  11. x1Heavy

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    I already have confirmed bronchial damage via MRI imaging and also Lime deposits from bulk tanking that got in there before the company understood to fit me with a face mask to eliminate that problem. I only lasted a week hauling lime. To this day it will hurt on bad days in that special way. Its permanent, they will burn it off in the crematory someday.

    I was a smoker as well. I could easily get back into it but prefer not to since 2001.

    Regarding ingesting of something into the body I prefer IV as a method to do it with medicines. Its almost a perfect system bypassing all that gut, stomach and time lost in waiting on a pill. However the dentist uses nitrous gas and has proved to me that its really working a time or two. Im out. But surgical levels to be really out? Thats where Versed IV comes in among other things.

    I cannot imagine sticking a needle with a illegal drug that you know nothing about. Its not worth it. Call me old fashioned but we used to keep a bottle of Codine and if one of us was sick? A spoon ful of that takes care of whatever it is that ails you. Its not much of a medicine for the mind, but its really good for the upset, whatever it is.
     
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