Hi Everyone,
Just failed the maneuvers portion of the Mi CDL test. I have been in a CDL school for 6 weeks and just can't seem to get through the test. Now the school itself is a serious challenge in and of itself. There have been times that the only truck we as students had to train with was a 1994 GMC white. They have now gotten a few other trucks but we can't seem to be able to train with anything similiar consistantly. Then on test day we need to perform the maneuvers in a truck we may not even have been in. Today, (and on the first attempt a week ago), I was able to get to the very last part of the 90, was in the lane but had the tail end pointing towards the driver's side of the lane so did a pull-up to straighten out which put me over on points. Today's test, I had a 1998 International which I only practiced in for an hour yesterday. Honestly there really isn't any 1 on 1 training in this school. Several students have quit the school since I've started, no one is happy with the training. When I talked to the test after my test, he even said he has not seen such a failure rate among students. There are ppl in the school who have failed 4 times. The only people I see passing are ppl who come from some kind of trucking background (parents or some other relative).
Just a little background, I am just retired from Security in the Nuclear industry, former Law enforcement and former active duty Marine. So, I have been to quite a few different schools and training academy's and have always done well. I'm just kinda at a loss how to get through this hurdle. Any suggestions would help
CDL Test Challenges
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mi_TRK, Oct 3, 2018.
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What are you failing on the skills test? What are the issues?
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frankly, a truck is a truck. it's YOUR timing that has to be adjusted for the speed, the steering response, the 5th wheel position, the braking response, the trailer tracking response to it's position of the tandems.. as you just said (basically yourself) no 2 trucks are alike.
for instance, some day you may be pulling all 53 footers. then your boss tells you to go and dock a 28 foot pup....i can assure you, that you WILL FEEL like a student all over again, and struggle getting that 28 footer docked.
it's YOUR TIMING...you cannot expect the near perfect results with one truck, over another..they are trucks, they DO AS YOU SAY.....WHEN YOU SAY (all your input on the wheel, brakes, fuel)Rideandrepair and Mi_TRK Thank this. -
Hey buddyd157,
Thanks for the input. I do understand that no 2 trucks will be the same. Just seems that as a student taking a test, I should be able to count on at least a similiar truck testing to the one I'm training in. I had been training in a 2014 Volvo, with a 53 ft trailer. On the test I was using a 1998 International with a 48 ft trailer. To me that's a pretty big change to have to deal with when testing. Later when I'm on the road with a company I kinda think a change in equipment will provide challenges but I won't be worried about getting points or grades. My concern will just be to handle the vehicle safely and can make all the adjustments I need to maneuver a vehicle.
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Hey FozzyNOK,
I am pointing out on the alley dock maneuver. Today I was having a hard time getting the approach right. In training , I was able to consistently set up and execute the maneuver with no real problems. The school I attend is on a dirt lot and the test site is a parking lot with asphalt, so I know there are differences in traction. As I mentioned above, I also had to deal with a different truck and trailor length. so found myself comming in too short on the approach. The very different turn radius of the International (slow), different ground type (asphalt vs dirt), and the shorter trailer just seemed more than I could in my very limited experience handle.Lepton1 Thanks this. -
I am going to reinforce that falling in love with a vehicle, hand me a diamond Reo of 1948 or a Mack B61 from the early 60's or even a 1980's truck whatever, I don't care what the truck is of itself. I expect certain behaviors from that truck.
A 53 with tandems on a 48 foot line will behave just like a 48 footer. The small differences in turning etc you are getting into several turning circles. Your front end, 5th wheel and trailer tandems. You can put anything anywhere big and small. Big is good. They behave better. If you put a wood chipper on the back of your dually pickup and tried to back that, no one can or should want to. It's just too short. Throw the thing into the bed. lolz.
It takes a little bit of time to settle into a truck once you get aboard.
They once did a rodeo in Gettysburg decades ago and stuck all of us into a daycab for the fun. Many of us actually failed. Myself included. Why? Because if we did this course in sleeper cabovers just like we have been doing for years all of us will have to split a trophy. That rodeo was a deliberate and designed disadvantage for me for other reasons and I should never have attended. But I am one of the few who got past the tennis balls so there is that.
Your school seems to have structural problems. DEEP problems.
IF a Marine does not spend enough time with a rifle, don't bother. You follow me? It seems no one is spending time with the trucks. You might want to take that to the State and tell them you have a school that wont put everyone into trucks all the time and thus everyone is failing left and right.
My trucking school we ran the hell out of our few trucks until we got sick of it. And ran em some more. Then competed against each other and the instructors. Some of who taught god how to use the mountains he made. (Even today I could maybe get close to some of the times that the instructors set. And that is if I ignore the possibility of damage.) -
Thanks x1Heavy,
The school definately has issues, but I'm too commited now to change. I couldn't believe it when they told me that the 3 main trucks we were using had their registration lapse during the weekend. So I asked for a little refresher time on the road yesterday ( I had no road time in 2 weeks lol), we kept hearing a rattling sound while on the road, turns out all but the top hinge on the driver's door were broken, so that truck went OOS too. It's been one thing after another since I started, but like I said I'm already too far in to find another school and I have to start making money.Lepton1 Thanks this. -
What's the name of the school?
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The same thing happened to me in 1983.. lol, the night before the test, they brought up a 71 Peterbilt Cabover from Stockton CA.. The first time I drove it was on the skills test the next day.. I made it... but it sucked!
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I might add, I'm not sure the problem is institution wide, could be just this location.Last edited: Oct 3, 2018
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