Cheating on logs

I plead the 5th....guilt by association maybe!!!

 

5th of what?

 

Jack will be fine!

 

All of these things go together. Lets say you're "cheating on your logs" you get into an accident? They go through your logs, you're cooked. Some drunk broad kills herself by driving into your ICC bumper. That simple wreck is now on you.

 

Went over 7 minutes on my logs. I had a flash back when she said my name and said I was in violation. To go ahead and keep trucking into the sun went down. Since the fine for 7 minutes or 7 hours is the same. It's all about boundaries with laws. Yes the hours of service suck but no matter what they come up with. Somebody is going to have a problem with them, and if On board computer logs keep 80% or so within the boundaries of the law. Then I personally believe we can have safer roads. When we have no boundaries. We tend to push ourselves to the max. The laws are not only for 4 wheeler and motoring public protection. But from protection from companies who want drivers to drive 15 plus hour days. Yes people stop their truck and head to the tv lounge for 6 hours. Then come on trucking forum for 2 hours and gets 2 hours of sleep. No that driver is not rested, but companies can easily spot those type drivers with E logs by how much they stop and have to take naps throughout their work day. Hopefully they will get rid of them and put productive people in their truck to keep this country moving and these roads safe.

By the way since more people are distracted when they drive. I do believe accidents or more inevitable. Doesn't have to be your fault, but just take a look at who's driving these days, and thank the good Lord that you didn't have to fill out an accident report. Oh by the way. Went over by 7minutes and no call from safety. No threat of taking my safety bonus even though that was lost when I went over my hours by 1 1/2 hours when I was stuck in a traffic jam. Also we like to mention people dying, but also people can get severely hurt in trucking accidents. So lets think of others. When the old mighty dollar is pushing us to go above and beyond the limits of the law. Good day sirs

 

Driving (or allowing a driver to drive) more than 3 hours beyond the driving-time
limit may be considered an “egregious” violation and subject to the maximum civil
penalties. Also applies to passenger-carrying drivers.

 

Not sure how getting stuck in traffic might be applicable, but I did have about 2 hours over my 14 once when getting a tire repaired roadside and was allowed to log drive time to the nearest rest area under the "Safe Haven" rule. How would that work if you are stuck in traffic?

 

The same,it would be a violation. You're best bet is to document, document, document. It's still a violation, but it's easier to explain if you specific notes. The only safe haven in the FMCSA applies to HazMat

Question 3: May a motor carrier consider fuel stop operators as ‘‘qualified representative(s)’’ for purposes of the attendance and surveillance requirements of §397.5?
Guidance: Yes. However, the fuel stop operator must be able to perform the required functions.
Question 4: Who determines what is a ‘‘safe haven’’?
Guidance: The selection of safe havens is a decision of the ‘‘competent government authorities’’ having jurisdiction over the area. The definition found in §397.5(d)(3) is purposely void of any specific guidelines or criteria. A truck stop may be considered a safe haven if it is so designated by local or State governmental authorities.
Question 5: Section 397.5(d)(3) describes a safe haven as ‘‘* * * an area specifically approved in writing by local, State, or Federal governmental authorities for the parking of unattended vehicles containing Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 materials.’’ Do guidelines exist for establishing approval criteria for safe havens? Is there a national list of approved safe havens available to the public?
Guidance: The FHWA believes the safe haven concept is becoming increasingly obsolete due to readily available alternatives for providing ‘‘attendance at all times’’ for vehicles laden with explosives. The FHWA is aware of two documents that may be used as resources for establishing approval criteria for safe havens. The first document, Construction and Maintenance Procedure Recommendations for Proposed Federal Guidelines of Safe Havens for Vehicles Carrying Class A or Class B Explosives (1985), contains design, construction, and maintenance guidelines. The second document, Recommended National Criteria for the Establishment and Operation of Safe Havens (1990), contains recommended national uniform criteria for approval of safe havens and an inventory of all State-approved safe havens in existence at the time of the report. These two documents may be used both as resources for establishing guidelines for safe haven design and construction, and as source documents for finding other materials that may be used toward the same purpose. These two documents are available to the public through the U.S. Department of Commerce, National Technical Information Service (NTIS), Springfield, Virginia 22161 (phone: (703) 487-4650). The NTIS publications database is also accessible on the internet’s world wide web at http://www.fedworld.gov/ntis.