Cheating on logs

Even without Elogs you can still be tracked with your cell phone and Ipad. That's one way companies decide where to place billboards and other advertisements.

 

I will agree with about 95% of what you said discarding running hard, and we will all be on elogs.

They do hold accountable dispatchers as you said in your other posts and I'm sure they show who manages their time better, idk how yours are set up i know FCC's will shut a truck down idk if yours are that way. I also know loading and unloading is supposed to be spent ok line 4. Idk how you do things Joseph its none of my business I'm curious what you mean by managing time. If you could elaborate that would really help. If you mean keeping the left door shut we all know most drivers don't know how to do that. Every 15 minute stop you make takes you 45 minutes in theory when you factor in slow down, and time to get back up to speed and parked etc.

Now then as for PATTs and CRASH mandating these stupid things. They can fight all they want I don't see it happening. We all know those people are anti truck (even though they say pro safe truck) they will tell you they're not but they are. They are also pro railroad (they say they're not but the railroad funded them). I don't see them ever being mandated and when they are there will be a lot of freight sitting I think that will finally cause the full blown strike.

I can't have an elog and comply with USDA law and have my livestock arrive alive. So there would have to be an exemption made for cattle trucks to be on paper (every LEO KNOWS what goes on!!! Weather they admit it or not!) Can't have that because there would be an uproar from everybody else who was force to be on elogs. Rest pens are NOT an option, because there aren't enough of them, nor is it cost effective, $400-600/night nobody would be able to afford a steak or a hamburger because I sure as hell am going to be compensated for spending that kind of money.

Its not just livestock that an elog could effect. Just in time freight, oversize in new York, heavy haulers, anybody that has time restrictions will be effected. I just don't see them ever being mandated especially after the economic impact it could have. That's just my opinion on the matter. Maybe I'm just being too optimistic on the matter. I can't say. But I do know if one has to be wired into my truck im going to know how to disable the #### thing. I don't remember all the amendments to the constitution i didn't pay attention in high school like I should have. But if I remember right I have the right to privacy that's encroaching on my privacy and I still say they're used for harassment. Which is why it was thrown out the first time.

I haven't paid attention to the elog argument lately idk where it stands right now. I do know I won't comply with that crap call em an outlaw call me whatever you want. I know I can't get my job done with an elog. Every DOT cop and state boy in the USA knows that too...hmmmm I wonder who has more pull the USDA and PETA or PATTs and CRASH? That would be a debate f the century lol.

 

Imagine the Alaska guys on e-logs. That would be something. And here's the thing. Instead of 15 minute increments, I am by the minute. If it takes 7 minutes to fuel, that's it. That helps keep hours. When I get to a shipper or receiver, its 5 minutes. That's it. Check in and back in. In the door, right to the bunk. A lot of places I check ahead to see if I can park. That saves time. Planning your day to a T helps too. I know where I'm stopping before I start my day. I've got this down to a science. Yeah, sometimes you have to tweak it a bit, but I'm usually on the money. I try to sleep at my fuel stops en route as well, that way I can fuel and Pretrip at the same time. Doesn't always work, but I try. The only thing that sucks is that 30 minute break. I really wish they didn't mandate that. Sometimes that throws a wrench into a good run, especially during snow when you got a good groove going.

 

I always here guys with E-Logs complain about never being able to stop for a shower and going many days parking wherever there time runs out. Stand in line next to some of these guys from the big carriers and they smell like they haven't showered in days.

I like my basic human right to be able to park somewhere and have a restroom, shower, and a hot meal. When the time comes I'll get my EOBR, and overcome and adapt. I don't like sitting at a shp/rec waiting for hours for them to get there job done, then have a computer tell me I can't drive 10-15 miles up the road to eat or shower at the end of the day. But I guess some people enjoy Goverment over reach.

 

I can tell you that in my experience that isn't true, I monitor about 500 drivers on eLogs and maybe 20 percent of them actually driver 11 hours per day. Most are in the 8 to 9 range with multiple stops along the way. Things to keep in mine are that you're in control (some what) of where you are going to shutdown for the night. During your 10 hour break you should have plenty of time to grab a shower. If you chose to park somewhere without showers, that's kind of on you. Is it possible that if you choose to park at rest areas you may go without a shower? Sure, but then again unless you're on a really tight run, you should be able to squeeze one in the next day. On the bright side, if there is never enough time for you to shower, you're probably turning some awesome miles, so be happy for that at least (and still find somewhere to take a shower).

 

For me, the only hold ups I get are loading produce in the Sumer. I drive 3 hours to load, then they keep you there for 10 plus hours. I guess you can use the short distance story to DOT. That's why I've been fight for flexibility in HOS. 2 hour split, gives kinda of a 16 hr day, with a 2 hour rest period.

 

Drivers are the only Americans with no civil rights. We surrendered them when we got our CDL and began to use it. D. O. T. can pull us over with no probable cause, search us top to bottom, inside and out then file on us for anything they find. It's all legal too. We have no recourse.

 

I am always amazed hearing drivers say they don't have time to shower. GTFO of here with that garbage. I don't care where I'm at, what load I'm under etc... I make time to stop once a day to shower and clean up etc... I'll be dammned if I am ever put in a situation where I am pressured to not take care of myself. I run this truck, not someone in an office, not a computer or some bureaucrat somewhere. I'm on paper logs but one day I'm sure I'll be on elogs. But that doesn't change the fact that my personal hygiene and health will not suffer....it will only happen because I say so.

I don't understand why guys have such a difficult time with planning their days. There's just no excuse, in my books, to ever not have enough time to stop and grab a shower, use the can, fix something to eat. Sure, there's days where it's a quick shower, no lolly gagging, but the fact remains, drivers are in control of the truck and yourself. People need to stop letting themselves get bullied by rules or people setting in an office some where.

 

I am on elogs. I have time to shower. I bet those guys were real big and fat. They have no time to shower, but can stop every 15 minutes for fast food

 

If you ain't cheating some where some how you ain't trucking. By the time I am forced to e log there will be a way to cheat them too. How can anybody live in a truck with no shower and half eaten food 3 days old if they too lazy to wash they too lazy take out the trash.