Cheating on logs

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dogtrucker, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    Very well put wore out.
     
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  3. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    You gotta love these guys. Before there were E logs u still stood in the line with smelly truckers. Get out of here with that. You still had people flying in the snow to get the front row parking at the J. Yes you will have to adjust your schedule and sometime park at receivers and shippers so your clock don't start, but people were doing that b4 the 14 hour clock. I know I for one was. Yes there are times you sit in the middle of nowhere to do a 34 if that is what will help you out for the next week. But you have planned and have your food, baby wipes, and mountain dew bottle handy just in case. Let me guess the next person is going to say nobody was peeing in bottles before elogs as well. Because they don't have time to stop. lol. Please most of these loads you have plenty of time. The only problems you normally have is when you have to deliver and pick up the same day and your dispatcher hasn't pre planned you. Then when they do give you a load you have hours that have ticked away and you just hope the shipper doesn't take to long or allows you to finish your split break. If no parking is available nearby. You just go in violation to the nearest safe haven and finish your break. Yes you will have to start over, but it's on the dispatchers and planners for not having you a load sooner. In the 3 years I have been on Elogs I can count those times on 1 hand.
     
  4. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    I do well on E-logs. I don't reset but maybe once every month and a half, I can run 3000+ miles a week, and I certainly don't go without a shower. I understand the pushback on e-logs. Hell, I was one of them. I also understand they wouldn't work for every application. I don't think they need to be mandated either. They mandate the hell out of everything, they could take a break for a minute. I've talked to dont hate them. They like them. Of course more flexibility would be nice.
     
  5. rwdfinch50

    rwdfinch50 Medium Load Member

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    It has become obvious from reading all of your posts that you are not a driver. You may be a recruiter or a D.O.T. officer or a satety guy, but no way you're a driver. Your comments clearly show this.
    Let's take your accident picture, for example. By the way, that's Hagerstown, Md., not Racine, but it doesn't matter. As a driver for 36 years, I have numerous times been driving in winter, on good roads one minute, and suddenly being in a white out snow burst. It happens so quicklu that you cannot avoid it. I've seen it in Illinois on I-74, in Ohio near Youngstown on the Ohio Turnpike, and also I remember one time going through the twin tunnels on the Pa turnpike westbound in the middle of the night. The roads were clean and dry heading into the tunnel, and three miles west when coming out of the second tunnel, it was a white out with several inches of snow already on the ground. If you have ever been a driver for any number of years, you would have experienced a condition such as this one in the picture. Your statement basically implies that every one of the 40 cars and trucks involved in this wreck was driving too fast or tailgating and not paying attention. Before you give an opinion, try watching the story about the whiteout. http://wn.com/40_car_pile_up_near_hagerstown_maryland
    You have obviously never been driving on a highway that is wet, and suddenly turns to ice, like I have many times. You can be driving along just fine, and top a hill, and it's ice. No traction whatever. Ask any driver that's driven through Wyoming in the winter what it's like to top the sisters on a dry road, only to find out the downside is a sheet of ice. And it hasn't snowed for days, either.
    So, before you start telling all of us what we are doing wrong, and how we're risking lives due to our shirking of the regulations, you need to, as they say, "walk a mile in our shoes".
    By the way, I also have over three million miles safe driving, and a spotless record. So yes, I am an expert, just as many of the other drivers on this thread that you have been criticizing.
    Try to actually hear what these drivers are saying, instead of just finding something to criticize in their statements. I think you may learn something if you do.
    Have a good day.
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2013
  6. Freightlinerbob

    Freightlinerbob Road Train Member

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    I'd give up my paper logs if I could have unlimited resets again and get rid of that ASININE 1-5 AM stipulation on the reset.

    But I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.
     
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  7. Roadmedic

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    The most annoying rule yet.
     
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  8. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    I have to disagree with this. There are many reasons why a driver might need a mid day nap. Every person is different and has different rest/sleep needs. Jerking a driver's operating hours around is just one of many reasons why a driver might need a nap part way through the day.
     
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  9. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I have walked in similar shoes to yours, different size, on nasty roads, in all types of conditions.

    Believe it or not (and I tend to think you'll lean towards not) this is the reason why I come to the site. However, stating that accidents are inevitable I still say is not a good way to think. Keep in mind this whole tangent started in post #129

    I stand by my statement, it's probably not the best way of thinking.
     
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  10. Stump

    Stump Heavy Load Member

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    Everyone should take a look at the history of Hours of Service/Logbooks. The reasons for having them have changed to many times. They first came out to protect the driver from being over worked by customers/company's, to now being about protecting the motoring public from the truck drivers.

    in other words, government overreach at its best. HOS has turned into a total joke. Paper logs or E-logs, the only safe driver is one who was trained by proper trainer, not a clown with less then a years experience. The large company's run the show. They could care less about the word safe, only when it affects the bottom line. :biggrin_25513:
     
  11. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    the best part of my day is an hour nap about 2 pm
    been that way since 1973 so i suppose i might be in the habit by now :biggrin_25520:
     
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