The gray area wasn't gray, any substantial break stopped the clock; when I started 2 adjacent had to add up to 10 for the breaks and two drive times had to add up to 11 or less. Before I started, it was adding up to 8 and 10 hours drive time or less.
Now, you need to take 8 in the sleeper to extend, and don't take too long on the other as that will cut down on time available in your 14.
Too much sleep makes me more tired and groggy It's also hard to sit still and sleep that long when the weather or traffic will be turning against you, and with the old regulations, you could position yourself better legally.
Cheating on logs
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by dogtrucker, Dec 6, 2013.
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This right here would definitely reduce rush traffic congestion. There are many times that I wish I could just stop and wait it out, but the 14 keeps ticking.
If I could take a 2-3 hour nap during high traffic periods it would allow me to be more alert and have one less truck (probably many less trucks) on the road to allow the 4 wheelers to get to where they're going without having to dodge around as many trucks.
New rules rarely make things less complicated, and it is doubtful that they make us any safer.jnixon and road_runner Thank this. -
I agree I'd much rather slip out in the middle of the night than trying to get rolling in rush hour. I live on the east coast and going down and up 95 isn't working like it used to.
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That is for sure
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Look, in a perfect world... HOS rules would always work, and could be followed to the letter. Again, in a perfect world... e-logs could be in every truck, and they would all make money and everything would be, dare I say... "Perfect".
Reality check, the world is NOT perfect. In fact, when e-logs are forced on everyone... 'and make no mistake it is coming'... It will break the economy, big time. Perhaps enough for a total crash, and this is just reality.
So, overly gregarious, self-righteous zealots that continuously preach, "Log it as you do it"... Either are complete liars, fantasy folk, or are lucky enough where it works for them in their particular trucking niche.
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Yes it will, you have to look at the big picture. What do truckers need, and cannot do without to keep the wheels turning? What happens when there is a sharp increase in price in what they need? What then happens to freight prices? Then, how are these increased prices passed on? Why do these bottom feeder companies even have e-logs? Could it be to micro-manage the nit wits that they hire in the first place?
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Look at the history of the EOBR.
It has nothing to do with micro managing. It is the result of the drivers not adhering to the rules and being pushed by the dispatchers to break the rules as a favor.
The industry itself is responsible for it.Meltom, SheepDog, Dinomite and 1 other person Thank this. -
I implemented eLogs on a company that hauls refrigerated freight and was told by multiple sources that they cannot do their runs without violating the HOS. After the implementation of eLogs there was initially a drop in miles about 125 per week. This continued for about 3 months. Then as the drivers figured out how to manage their days better our average miles per week went up, when compared to what we were running on paper, and I'll assure you that most every log submitted while on paper was in some way falsified. As the drivers managed their days better our on time numbers went up and believe it or not our accidents went down. This resulted in getting higher paying contracts from our best customers.
You'll notice I didn't say anything about the disptachers or operations learning how to use the eLogs, because in my opinion they have made very little changes since paper logs. They have all the information they need to micro-manage the drivers, however if your company wasn't doing this practice before eLogs than it probably wont be doing it after eLogs.
I feel the key to your success when/if the change comes to you is the relationship your have with your dispatcher, and your ability to understand the regulations and use whatever magical elog machine is place in your truck. -
EOBR's come down to one thing, control. FMCSA making the rules in the name of "Safety" is just what they have to do. They have to spend money on made up studies to come up with these laws to justify there jobs, in the mean while, we all drive down the nations roadways and see most the trucks in the ditch, on dry roads, have a EOBR strapped to the roof of the truck. I seen 2 crashes for no reason in the last 2 days, it was on straight roads, good weather, and simple to see the driver fell asleep at the wheel, both trucks with EOBR's on the roof.
Government over reach BS. EOBR's should be a choice, not a mandate.HalpinUout and SheepDog Thank this.
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