Cheating on logs

I would also wonder much on this.

Seems many of the trucks that are running eobr, are the ones that do not slow down in construction zones and tailgate when they cannot go as fast as they want.

Read many of the posts on here and you will see that many are pushed so hard they do not stop or take any more breaks than what is required.

I really wonder on the true safety of these things.

I pretend to have one every so often and see what the result is.

 

Here is how it works with PeopleNet. Your company chooses a distance for the auto change of duty status. You can drive up to the that radius without flipping the change. However once you break the geofence it goes back to driving from the moment movement was detected on the truck. I'm seeing a handful of this with the 30 minute break, people taking off at 27 minutes and then calling in stating it said 30 when they left. I've test the hypothesis and that's how it works, it backfills the time. You can bypass this if you're smart and paying attention. You drive whatever your prescribed limit it and manually change yourself to driving you can gain the extra time. However that can also be caught on the miles without hours reporting, it's difficult to find and most likely wont be discovered in an audit or lawsuit. You can take the other (stupider) route and drive up to your limit and park it for 5 minutes, and play that game over and over again. I've seen that happen several times. Or the least safe option of constantly changing your status while driving.

The "best" way to cheat is to start it a few days early, and pull a fuse or loosen a cable and report the issue. If your company is not likely to route you to get this fixed immediately it will probably take a week or two to get back to a shop to have the repair made. Be sure you know exactly what you're doing in this regard, as sometimes when you plug things back in it fills in the gaps. Other times the GPS tracks, but doesn't fill. Keep in mind some companies may terminate your employment for tampering with equipment.

 

Speeding in a construction zone is likely to gain you a few seconds to maybe a few minutes. It's not that the companies are pushing them, it's that they have no personal regard for safety. I can see why many postulate that EOBR drivers are run so ragged they must tailgate and speed in construction zones and have the most accidents.

I would counter with your larger carriers, and typically training carriers, run EOBR's. Due the the huge number of drivers they have and lowest percentage of experienced drivers they much more likely to be in an accident. Additionally it's much easier to identify a major carrier in an accident than it is to identify one of 500,000 other trucking companies that may have been in an accident.

So, while I agree that a lot of companies suck and they do push drivers to run hard. I think that speeding in construction zones and tailgating are signs of bad drivers and not signs of EOBR's being unsafe.

 

You are not out here, so, I guess you would not see it.

They are the ones with the EOBR that are doing it, so it kind of points that way.

 

Ever hear of REM sleep? Usually goes on at the 3/4 point of a good sleep cycle. If it's interrupted, your rest is severely reduced and you will feel groggy the next day.

 

Did you read anywhere that I said the driver should start the next morning at 0800? I just stated that not logging backing into a dock isn't a great deal of work and you're not on a roadway. I could also add that drivers do this all the time on paper logs. Compliance and Safety while they have a lot in common are not the same thing.

 

Is the driver not performing work?

 

When I drove solo for USX, they would interrupt my REM sleep, because I had hours.... That's safety for ya...

 

I can tell you that the guys that I see when I do travel that come up upon me in the right right lane do not have Elogs. So is it fair for me to say that every truck without eLogs speeds? Like that guy that passes me 4 times on my way from Dodgeville to Dubuque because he's going to use that downhill to his advantage but doesn't want to move into the left lane? No it's really not fair for me to say that. So mostly I don't.

I think there are more drivers in the industry now that have no business being out there. This seems to be reflected in society in general, and quite frankly it's scary the direction were headed in. I have no idea how we turn this ship around to get headed back in the right direction, EOBR's being mandated aren't the answer, more regulation is not the answer. So I'd say since they'll never set a standard for drivers entering the industry, make the penalties for actual safety violations be more severe. I'm not talking about log book violations. I'm talking about speeding in construction zones, running traffic off the road, rear ending people (with the stipulation that the rear ended as not at fault), things of those nature. Drivers that are truly unsafe have no place in the industry and only lead to more regulation.

 

That was kind of my point, but when I was in orientation, with my current company, I was told that it had to be logged on line 4. I wanted to argue, but shut my mouth and nodded my head, knowing what really goes on in the real world. And that if the company REALLY did not want it logged the real world way, they would not give drivers the option to be realistic.