CSA 2010: The data

Back in june I tried to post about csa 2010,the reefer co. that I worked for talked about it in a meeting,6 months later it,s here. It makes me want to hang it up. The dot are going to enjoy themselfs a little too much I think. Writing drivers up for a clearance light,that,s just under the roof,an air line hanging down 17 inches, instead of 18 inches, there,s 40 points. Before if you had broken suspension on the truck and your company refused to repair it. You just pulled in the coop and told them to have a look at it, and you get repaired. Now you can,t because it will screw your safety rating up. A couple years from now there will be a driver shortage, because if you have a 60 or 70 rating, your co. will terminate you, when there the problem. They think if the tires hold air, your good to go. I,m running the chicago railyards now and no I don,t pull trailers that have missing lights, or missing mud flaps,etc., but hitting bumps,potholes do unplug the lights, since the railroad drops 53/ ft. containers on the chasis, like it,s the 1st one they ever set,popping light plugs off, or just hanging on so you 1st bump you hit the light plug comes off. Is the railroad lift boy, liable for anything, off course not.

 

This is something that should have been implemented years ago...

 

Please understand that I am being very serious, not flippant, when I ask you this question: WHY?

I'm what's referred to as a "wannabe". I will be going to driving school next summer, then train after that, so by the time I'm ready to go solo CSA 2010 will be in full swing. From your perspective as an inspector, what do you see as the major benefits of CSA 2010? Also, with implementation and data-gathering moving at its' current pace, when do you see carriers and drivers getting hit with the full force and effect of this initiative?

 

I want to see the same program implemented for the DOT and the police that track their hours worked and mistakes.

If you ask me:


It should be implemented now.

 

CSA 2010 is going to be better than DAC/USIS or whatever their name is this week right?
DAC is subject to certain rules regarding their actions as goverened by the Fair Credit Reporting Act, right? Specifically, you can get a free DAC report once a year or if you were denied a job b/c of it. Why are drivers being charged $10 to get a copy of their CSA 2010 report (or whatever they call it)?
According to the FCRA, DAC is required to remove false, incorrect or un-true information if a driver makes a claim, what about CSA 2010?
According to FCRA, drivers are allowed to offer a rebuttal to add to the record if they wish, can drivers do the same for CSA 2010?
It seems like this new system has NO safegaurds in place to protect the driver from mistakes or intentional wrong-doing, and no way for a driver to correct or even dispute any entry, no matter what!

 

Same mentality as the Klan had, Slavery should have never been abolished!

 

Roadmedic,

I can only speak for my Agency, we are restricted in regards of on duty time. We have restrictions of how many hours between shifts we need as well. Trust me, they don't let us work over the allowable amount, if they do it would be someone's arse. In 13 years I have never seen or heard of anyone doing this within our Agency. As far as mistakes, IAU has a full case load at all times. Misconduct allegations, granted are usually B.S., but still have to be investigated.

I too agree it should have been implemented years ago. When you see some of the ##### I see on the road and the p!ss poor excuses for why they are driving a rolling junk yard it will give you this opinion. Look I conduct inspections every day that have no violations. The people this is going to affect aren't most of you on here. The majority of you I bet get very clean inspections. I can tell by most of your posts. These fly by night carriers, and driver's that I know you see at the trucks stops and up and down the interstates are who this will remove from the highway very quickly. Now if you are a chronic speeder, it will get you too, but there has always been a way for that, 393.51. This will make the driver, conduct a proper pre trip and check things before hand if they want to avoid bad inspections. I see this as a good thing. Driver's that care about their CDL will do that. Ones that do a half ##### job will be negatively affected. Carriers that don't want to take care of business will be negatively affected. If you run good equipment and are truely a professional this will only help you. Remove the fly by nights and cut the competition and under cutting of the rates.

 

Granted, for the most part, I agree with you. However, if an officer or scalemaster has an attitude, with these new rules, they CAN do damage for the littlest item.

You know we are not perfect, but these rules allow too much lattitude to an officer with no recourse to the affected driver.

 

So now we need to work on the recourse part. Hopefully that doesn't take years for the courts to iron out.

 

Well every day carriers Data Q or challenge inspections throughout this country. Granted if a violation is present and is listed on the inspection report, it is what it is.

I fully understand that drivers and officers alike have bad days and if the two meet on those days it can be an ugly sight. I had a guy this morning that was definately having a bad day. I caught him running around the scales and he was p!ssed. Attitude from the get go. I let him go and get himself worked up even more. I admit that, but it was comical to watch from my vantage point. He was so furious that I caught him with his pants around his ankles, 2000 lbs overweight, trying to sneak around the scales that if I wanted I could have lite his world up with citations. Now I will admit, this driver was begging and asking for a warning. When someone does that with me I don't play into it, I explain to them what the fines are and ask them why should I give you a warning. You're only sorry that I caught you, not that you are actually doing it. I shouldn't have let this guy get all amped up, but dam he just kept going and going like the Energer Bunny. He had a bad air line as well. Well when I told him about this violation and that he was out of service you would have thought I shot his best bird dog. "Thanks. Thanks a lot. Thanks for a break. I can see your a first rate d!ck." When all was said and done, he was put OOS, written his overweight and given warnings for the other violations. He got worked up for nothing, but he thought he was getting a couple of thousand dollars in fines for running around. After he calmed down he was actually a decent guy and we had a pretty good conversation afterward while he waited for the road service guy. But, I could've turned the screws to him and lite up his world like the fourth of July with about $3000 in tickets. Thankfully for him, I was having a good day. I have no idea why I didn't write him for everything which is usually what I do when someone act like a jack arse but this lucky guy got a gift today.