Dealing With Dispatch

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dogtrucker, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. dogtrucker

    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    Ha ha! Great post.
    ... If I am always right then that simplifies the communication

    Yeah, that seems to nail it. But are you making amusing speculations or do you know something about the training process?

    Regardless, they often do operate this way. If we want to push back psychologically, that is not hard to do with a little knowledge of rational fallacies and a few rhetorical methods such as the "reductio ad absurdum" - that is, "let's take your statement/ argument to it's logical conclusion".

    With a little practice, one can point out the irrationality of what is being said in an inescapable way. When I do this, I get often get that sweet interval of awkward silence.

    By staying very brief, very clear and perfectly rational your antagonist is shamed and ridiculed without anything aggressive or negative being said. Who wants to look like a fool? I believe this approach at least reduces your antagonists efforts to "outsmart" you or just give nonsense replies. Eventually, respect can be built where our antagonist decides for himself that honest dialogue is more pleasant than having his nose repeatedly rubbed in the excrement coming out of his own mouth.
     
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  3. dogtrucker

    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    Have you tried documenting and using the chain of command?
     
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    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    Called it. No degree of clarity and good humor can discourage the critic from his righteous duty!
     
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  5. dogtrucker

    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    This was the senior dispatcher on my account. In the video I describe using documentation and chain of command to hand the issue off to someone who cares while making the perpetrator squirm a bit. Nothing dramatic but generally an effective method over time.

    I look at a story like playing a piece of music - the point is not to get to the end of it as quickly as possible. As someone suggested, I could easily give a concise and chronological account in three minutes rather than twelve. How dull. It's like preferring to read accounting spread sheets over literature. Are some people really like that or do they only pretend to be?
     
  6. pattyj

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    dispatchers don't like it when drivers out them in their place.But hey sometimes it needs to be done
     
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    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    And not getting upset during the communication is key as well... If you are off balance and they put you there, then then they have control... If they keep you off balance then you are exposed and vulnerable.
     
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    You wouldn't last in that dark world. The other dispatchers would find a way to get you gone so you quit making them look bad. I've had "dispatcher problems" at all 4 companies I've worked for in 23 yrs. One constant is that the good ones don't last. My current dispatcher will brag about all his years as a driver and owner operator. Then he should well know what all questions need answered. But I still get incomplete or wrong instructions on nearly every load.
     
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    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    But between the two jobs.. Driver vs Dispatcher... I would much prefer to deal with a few miscommunications on my side than to even try to juggle 50 drivers, keeping them all happy (we can be a grumpy group) and get it right and just in time for each and every driver.

    That would push me over the freaking edge!!!

    So I will stay in my corner office with a great view and appreciate when it does all flow right.

    Stay Safe,
    MD
     
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  10. dogtrucker

    dogtrucker Road Train Member

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    A year ago, dispatch would try to micro-manage me on every move.
    Not so much now. I want to think I am just more trusted now but I know part of this improvement is from making such interactions uncomfortable - even humiliating for my dispatcher.

    So here is another boring/entertaining, rambling/insightful video on a specific event illustrating my attitude about having some firm boundaries with (and detachment from) the dispatch culture.

     
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    You always drive with your vest on?
     
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