Dot regulation question

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by saltbranch, Jul 11, 2013.

  1. saltbranch

    saltbranch Bobtail Member

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    Hi all, this is my first post and actually excited to be among drivers. I Drove OTR for 12-13 yrs, been through all of the lower 48, then went into the Texas oilfield as an owner operator. Did that gig for several years and then took a time card job. I always heard the statement, "you can take the driver out of trucking, but you cant take the trucking out of the driver"....I understand that statement fully, I miss driving and my kids are almost out of High School, my plan is back in a truck,, I miss that life style.
    My question is about an argument I am in on another Board about CDL requirements, and they have change alot over the last 5 years. Now per USDOT is what I concerned about and the interpretation of:
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    Now the argument I am in is that, they(farm tractor owners) interpret this as that you can take a truck rated or weighs at 26,000 and hook it to a trailer that is rated for and weighs 10,000 lbs and roll across the US with no issues. My position is that once you break the 26001 lb thresh hold in any vehicle set up, single or combination...CDL is required.
    Am I right or wrong?
     
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  3. ryan7892

    ryan7892 Light Load Member

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    As long as the power unit is below 26,000 lbs and the trailer is less than 10,000 lbs then no cdl is required
     
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  4. saltbranch

    saltbranch Bobtail Member

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    That truly makes no sense to me. It is what it is I guess. So I can take a hydraulic brake F-650 and pair it with a 20-30'-10k trailer and roll down the road no problems. Yet take a new 1 ton with 13750 lb gvw and hook to a trailer with 2-7k axles, and I am in CDL territory...
     
  5. ryan7892

    ryan7892 Light Load Member

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    if you are a class b license holder you can have a trailer no more than 10,000 and stay class b. also the ton truck doesn't matter its a class c and if the trailer gvwr is under 10k you are class c
     
  6. saltbranch

    saltbranch Bobtail Member

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    Please break it down,....more detail
     
  7. saltbranch

    saltbranch Bobtail Member

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    A 1 ton truck with a 13750 gvwr pulling a 14k gvwr trailer..puts you over 26001 lbs and into CDL Class A territory. BUT apparently you can take a 26k truck and a 10k trailer and yield a gcvwr of 36k and no cdl required?
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    No. Anytime you gross over 26,001 lbs on gvwr on the combined units a cdl is required.
     
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  9. saltbranch

    saltbranch Bobtail Member

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    I agree, now help me prove this. give me a link or something..refer back to my first post where I cut/pasted. the wording does not include GCVWR, just GCWR.
     
  10. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm


    Classes of License:
    The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:


    Classes of License:
    The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:
    Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
    Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.
    Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is transporting material that has been designated as hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and is required to be placarded under subpart F of 49 CFR Part 172 or is transporting any quantity of a material listed as a select agent or toxin in 42 CFR Part 73.
     
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