Driver-facing camera test

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tarmadilo, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    I do not know a whole lot about the way they work. I do know (common sense) that if they were not recording ALL the time they would be worthless in any accident.
    I also know for a fact that at least some trucking companies can monitor them from the office. I know a driver that was fired for fooling with his girlfriend. I know several of the office and shop personell that watched the video too. lol
     
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  3. MrEd

    MrEd Road Train Member

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    I find it funny when you people cant find any valid reason to support something you attempt to insult and marginalize the people who do not support it. It is not "getting excited", "molehills and calling them mountains", "tinfoil hat" or any other such silliness to value my privacy or reputation. Lawyers can and do subpeona these types of things. Companies do monitor them. That has all been proven. And other than insurance discounts, not of you have given one valid reason to support their use. As Socrates said "when the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser". So insult away. Call me paranoid. Say I have a tinfoil hat on. Say I'm whack. Whatever. That just means I am winning the debate and you have no legitimate points to counter my opposition. Anyway, Ive said my piece on this topic. I will not drive an OTR truck with a driver facing camera. My concerns are already proven and are valid. Goodnight.
     
  4. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    I apologize for hurting your feelings.

    I’ve been a professional driver for twenty years, and in that time I’ve had cameras pointed at me for four of them. I’ve never had anyone from any of the companies that I worked for who used these cameras ever come back at me for anything they said they saw on camera (and I’m no angel). None of my coworkers have, either. No driver I’ve ever worked with has ever mentioned anything happening with a previous employer, either.

    There are a whole lot of trucking companies out there, so I can’t claim to know what other companies are doing.

    But I’ll once again try to appeal to your common sense. Video is both time intensive (it takes ten minutes to watch ten minutes of video in real time, and even sped up to double time it takes five minutes) and data intensive (my company, and my previous employers as well only upload 15 second captures from accidents/incidents, half before whatever triggered it and half after).

    They don’t sit in the office and watch us while we’re driving. They watch only a small percentage of triggered incidents. They watch all triggered and reported accidents. There just isn’t enough time/manpower/money to do more than that. My company has 350 drivers, that’s 350 cameras. At, say, 10 hours of driving a day, that’s 3,500 hours of video every day. Let’s say they only look at six days of videos a week, that’s 21,000 hours of video a week.

    My company’s safety office has two full time people, and a few more who are also part of the training office. They aren’t looking at 21,000 hours of video. Not in real time, and not in uploads.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Just because they aren't viewing the clips doesn't mean they don't exist or that they won't come back to bite you (and them) in the event of a crash. As I stated before, plaintiffs attorneys WILL BE seeking those video clips from your camera if you're ever involved in a crash, and whether it was your fault or not, they'll use those clips to paint you as the world's most irresponsible and dangerous driver who has no business pushing a buggy at the grocery store let alone driving an 18 wheeler. The fact that nobody at the company bothers to view the video clips sent to them by the 3rd party operator will be used to show negligence, increasing the size of the check they'll have to write (even if the wreck wasn't your fault...if the company had fired you for your unangelic behavior like they should have, you wouldn't have been there to crash into the plaintiff). They HAD the tools necessary to be aware of your bad habits and correct them, and they chose to do nothing.
     
  6. im6under

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    My feelings arent hurt. It is simply a matter of enough is enough, to me. It does not benefit me and if it did, not to the point of acceptance or approval by me.

    I will simply go elsewhere and do something else. Right wrong or indifferent i am anti big brother, whether its the government or the employer. I have submitted to enough ######## already. Forward facing cameras eld and fingerprints is already too much. A company charging me xtra, $15 a week for healthcare unless i submit to a bloodtest for healthcare. Something they say has no consequences and they never see. Sure and why the 15 off? Oh its a discount.

    Yeah cuz you cant force me yet, otherwise you would. Tired of bs, i am not a statistic, a number, or a machine. I dont submit to anybody being in my business.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    A dab of electrical tape over the lens and done.

    If they fire for that.. oh well. Been fired for way less.
     
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  8. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    I’d point out that I basically did that for two weeks, and not only didn’t get fired, I didn’t even get noticed.
     
  9. mustang190

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    The ones I have read about in some of the trade rags like Bulk Transporter are on all the time and react to facial cues like yawning and eye rubbing. They warn dispatch which will review it or call the driver.
    Yes, I too would quit.
     
  10. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    I yawn, I blink, I shake my head vigorously, I sing at the top of my lungs, I yell “####### it, I’m sleepy!”

    No response yet.
     
  11. sevenmph

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    Well I started with a long diatribe and then erased it. I will simply say this.
    I'm sure the insurance companies, trucking companies, the ATA, and the DOT love the cameras. As do many others who aren't concerned with how you feed your family or pay your bills.
    They are watching out for themselves. But, you won't watch out for yourself.
     
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