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Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by Bret1984, Nov 21, 2021.

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  1. Jan 15, 2022 #81
    Bret1984

    Bret1984 Medium Load Member

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    It varies, I typically use up my hours each week. I get 70 duty hours just like the road drivers only I do a 24hr reset instead of a 34hr reset. Then I get 12 hours of drive time and 15 hours of on duty time each day. Then I take an 8 hour break instead of a 10 hour break. That's for the TX logs. If we go outside of TX which I don't then we have to switch over to the US rules which is 11 and 14 with a 10hr break however still a 24hr reset and you can go into "wait time" which completely stops your clock under the US oilfield exception.
     
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  3. Jan 15, 2022 #82
    BeHereNow97

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    Are you 1099 or W2 and what specifically do you do in the oil field, if you don't mind me asking? And do you stay in hotels/rental place or in the truck?

    Also $1500-$1800 as a W2 drive is pretty good money for OTR if you can make that consisently.
     
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  4. Jan 15, 2022 #83
    BeHereNow97

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    So how does this work with the OTR Truckload drivers? Every company that hires drivers with a CA address has to pay them for on duty times, how much do they have to pay them or isn't it a set amount?

    And what if someone moved from a non CA state to a CA state, would that company still have to pay them for all on duty time or could they fire the employee and not have to pay unemployment since they hired the employee on the basis that they didn't originally have a CA address?

    I have never heard of this so I'm curious about it and when it came into effect.
     
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  5. Jan 15, 2022 #84
    InTooDeep

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    Sorry I don't have all the details. It started when the BS AB5 went into effect in CA
     
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  7. Jan 16, 2022 #85
    jackoboyo

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    I tried the dividend route for a few years. Nice to get 4-8% but little price appreciation. Decided to switch to mostly growth in the big names. AAPL, MSFT, AMZN and a few more. Not all were winners. I retired in 2017 and have been living off a military pension so I haven't touched my retirement account. Up over 125% in that time. Much better than the dividend route or the S&P 500 by my calculation.
    Living on a lake in the Adirondacks of New York. Swim and boat in the summer. Snow machine and fish in the winter.
     
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  8. Jan 19, 2022 #86
    Bret1984

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    It's W2 drivers typically stay in the truck if they don't live locally and that's why I don't do OTR.
    I haul frac sand in a pneumatic tanker. There's different oilfield jobs. There's sand, water, crude and flatbed jobs.

    Now a disclaimer in regards to the money. You will earn every penny! You can come out here and chill if you want to but don't expect to make much money if you do. You will have to put in the work but if you're a hustler and run hard you'll make money.
     
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  9. Jan 20, 2022 #87
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    Yeah, I didn't want to stick around for 20 years. A military pension would be nice but 20 years of the army is too much. I made it 13 years and had enough. All the 12 month deployments then in the field 6 months out of the year when not deployed. Maybe if I was in the air force I could do 20 years. I'm not going to put up with trucking for 20 years either. Of course social security is going to be bankrupt before I come of age. So I need another strategy.
     
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  10. Jan 20, 2022 #88
    BlueThunderr

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    so you are basically working like 15 hour days and then taking tight 8's ? If I am reading that right ?
     
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  11. Jan 30, 2022 #89
    Bret1984

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    Yup, I do work more hours and get less sleep than an OTR driver but I get a lot more money and I go home for a week instead of for a couple of days. However not everyone is working the hours that I work. If you want to make my money then you gotta do my workload. That applied to OTR too. I was always the top driver on my fleet because I'm competitive. It's my way of keeping myself motivated by being competitive and trying to outdo everyone else. Other people are not working that much but they're making less money too. Just like with OTR. I can take an OTR job and just take it easy if I want to but I won't make much money. However yeah, if I'm cool just making $1,000 a week I don't have to work too hard for that.
     
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  12. Feb 3, 2022 #90
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    If $1800 is a bad week then what is a average week for you?
    I consider myself a upper tier worker. Not the best, but I do one thing most other people won't do anymore. I simply show up and work.
    How much would you guesstimate a mid-upper tier worker is making a week in the oilfield?
    I started out in dirt hauling being paid by the load then over to fuel being paid by the hour. Hurt my back. Out 10 years. Now doing reffer for 25% of the load.
    I work at a great company that I'd like to stay with but I'm lucky to get $1500 a week and I'm not a fan of waiting around at shippers/receivers.
    I actually prefer chasing that rabbit. Like it even better passing it.

    Can a fat man with a bad back do oilfield work?
    How many on for how much off?
    Housing? Or do you live in your trucks?
    How do ya deal with healthy eating?
    Any tips?

    Just thinking about my next move once I have the necessary recent experience.
     
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