Drowsy Driving, Zero Options

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by AmericaHatesTruckers, Aug 29, 2019.

  1. AmericaHatesTruckers

    AmericaHatesTruckers Bobtail Member

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    I respect all of your opinions.

    To those saying on is not forcdd. Well, um, Yes, you are forced to go down the road or else be ticketed/fined and have your record affected. Sure feels like force to me, not any leniency whatsoever. A ticket would really mess up my monthly finances. I drive a truck after all, pay is small.

    This is my dedicated run, there is no planning, it's what I do all the time.

    And like I said in my original post, this was a real fluke out of no where drowsy. 99.9% of the time I complete the run with ease. It was an emergency, a human breakdown similar to a truck breakdown.

    Also, I was not directly next to a active lane of traffic. I was as far as I could be next to one of those merge exit and enter freeway lanes. The shoulder was more than a truck and half wide, I was well clear of any lane or near any highspeed traffic and fully marked with hazards and all lights on.

    I understand about having a story for the barneys, but that was my whole point of this post, being drowsy and requiring a emergency rest should be acceptable!!

    I do agree, taking a 10 hour break on the shoulder shouldn't be allowed and would be poor trip planning.

    As to being nuts for parking on the shoulder, I felt it was more nuts to continue driving down the road feeling how I was feeling. I didn't know if I was having a serious medical condition or not....

    I've also found it funny that when getting my CDL, all the materials and test say there is no replacement for sleep if drowsy behind the wheel, but yet never mention that you have literally zero options if you get drowsy behind the wheel, like anyone can plan to not get drowsy. The slogan is, drowsy driving is impaired driving. So what was safer in that scenario, me to continue driving down the highway at freeway speed impaired or pull over the best area I possibly could make it to. I know all the ramps along the route and there is few with good truck parking, nor could I continue on anymore to reach the few safely either.

    Anyways I've said my peace and I'll leave it at that. Some agree, some disagree and thats cool with me.

    I especially love the "quit driving and go flip burgers" type of post lol, never gets old. As if driving is so great that the only other job out there is at a burger place, hahaha.

    Not much more to say by me, I'm going to continue living my life now and move on.
    Drive safe. Peace out.
     
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  3. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    what do you do with your 30 minute break?

    surely you must be stopped by then, right.>??

    so taking a nap then is out of the question..??

    you are NOT being forced to drive tired...you are a poor planner of your routes and times.

    your fault. 1000%..!!

    you have every opportunity to stop and take a nap, or do you drive thru your 30 minute break, in clear violation..????
     
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  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Here is where I think everyone disagress when we say you are not forced, no one forces you to take work that you can't complete, you are not a slave and it is even more of an issue when a driver blame everyone else for their problems. The cop is doing his job, it doesn't matter what you think, if you are broke down that's one thing but taking a nap on the side of the road in today's world is stupid thanks to people who can't drive.

    You should always have an out. Meaning - you should always know the route and where to stop just in case.
     
  5. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    i too did dedicated for decades.....i always found some time to take a quick nap.

    i think you are pushing yourself to hurry up and get back, and as a result, blaming others for you driving tired.

    simply, no excuses.....you cannot go up against other dedicated (or former) drivers and say you cannot find the time or a place for a quick nap.

    that's the biggest hogwash story if ever i heard one.
     
  6. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    I can sympathize, I’ve been there, we’ve probably all been there, sleepy behind the wheel. But you just plain screwed up when you parked on the shoulder.
     
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  7. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    With a dedicated run you should know where you can pull off for a quick nap. After all, you should be noticing more and more spots the more you travel.

    For example you notice the alley behind that strip mall there is room for a truck to stop for a few....
     
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  8. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    heck, not only did I NOTICE parking spots, but i also noticed all the MA state trooper locations along the highway..when i'd be approaching them, i'd turn off my high beams......

    i even could take a quick nap (and i would) at my last stop, then get on back to my d/c center..

    so there really isn't any viable excuses to not find a place for a few minutes, other than of course a dangerous shoulder spot.
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    How violent is the crash when a vehicle going highway speed plus, hits a stopped vehicle? Stopping on the shoulder is not an option, it's only slightly safer than stopping in the travel lane to sleep because every moron on the road is worshipping their cellphone and occasionally glancing up to see what a good driver they are. They all drift inot other lanes every day. New drivers have a lot less appreciation for the violence of the wreck they will be involved in so they stop on the shoulder to P, to make lunch, to text, to surf the web, for every little thing they WANT to do. Being one of 30 drivers seen parking on the shoulder doesn't change the violence of the crash. Being on the shoulder for a non-emergency reason does not lessen the financial/criminal consequences of parking on the shoulder.

    Unless a road has no on/off ramps there is ALWAYS a better option than the shoulder of travel lanes. New drivers entering this field have always been clueless, I was. But in the past, before everyone was told since age 3 that whatever they are doing is the the exact right thing even if it's causing problems, new drivers tried to learn. Now they get a 3 week CDL school. Ride with a 6-month "veteran", and their habits and info are just as "correct" as what someone learns doing this job for 10, 20, 30 years.
     
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  10. The1Nate

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    Did you go back to sleep after he ticketed you?I would have really have it alot of thought,being I now have a ticket in hand.Always be sure to look out for your own safety and know the D.OT. and law enforcement aren't going to help make your job any easier.They are there to make the state money off of you.Safety should always be first and foremost always.
     
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