dyno test responsibility

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  1. areelius

    areelius Light Load Member

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    I bought a 2000 freightliner classic from a private party. He provided me with a 4 month old dyno report from a major detroit diesel dealer. I looked up the engine serial number off the report and discovered it is a 95 engine. I called the dealer and they said they dont check to see if the engine is the right one for the vehicle, but only test power and oil leaks etc... I called another detriot dealer who disagreed. It is a Calif truck so it cant be legally operated with this engine. Who is right and what should I do next?
     
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    What's the actual serial number on the engine?
     
  4. allan5oh

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    The stickers on the engine should have a year on them as well. "This engine complies with xxxx emissions law" or something like that.

    I'm kind of lost as to your question, do you think the dyno operator is somehow responsible for the year of the engine? Is there anything in California regulations that require a seller to inform the buyer if the engine has been swapped out?

    I think you should've looked a little closer before buying the truck.
     
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  5. Colorato

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    Shops that perform dyno runs are just going to strap the truck down and run it. It doesn't matter to them what year, make or model the engine or truck is. You should know this before you bought it.
     
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  6. areelius

    areelius Light Load Member

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    Yes according to other detroit dealers, they are responsible to notify the owner if the vehicle has an illegal engine. In Calif, there is something called "full disclosure" which basically means that if you know something pertinent which affects the vehicles use, or legality, you must disclose it at the time of sale. This law applies to the seller in this case. The detroit dealer has liability for locating the serial number and not checking to see that it meets federal emission requirements in the application. Yes I agree I should have looked into this closer, but I am in it now and have to deal with it.
     
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  7. areelius

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    Maybe you are right about dyno shops in general, but this was done at a Detroit Diesel Dealership. They are responsible to check the emission legality of a vehicle and notify the owner. They failed to do this. In Calif. everything emission related is a big issue, especially for engine makers. What I would like to know is, can the ECM be reprogrammed to a newer engine or a newer ECM put on to at least make it appear that it is a newer engine?
     
  8. MJ1657

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    What is your motive here?

    It appears that you are trying to say someone else is somehow responsible for you purchasing a truck with a non original engine?

    I sure hope not.
     
  9. underpsi

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    Hes say9ing it would have been nice to know before he bought it that it was not the original engine configuration
     
  10. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    Read the last sentence of the original post.

    Maybe i'm being pesimistic but it appears the op wants someone else to be responsible for this.
     
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  11. SHC

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    So now the next step is to get a lawyer and take the seller to court. That is the only recourse you have at this point, and good luck.

    Unfortunatley this is a very expensive lesson to be learned, but next time around I hope you do your homework on a truck purchase. people go into this as if they were buying a personal vehicle like a car. it's not as easy as many think. Poor judgement, lack of research and knowledge of the business (used trucks) will bite ya in the butt everytime.
     
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