E-LOGS

I drove on E-logs for 6 months and it was some of the most stressful driving I have done. Only part of the fleet was on E-logs and so the freight was still planned for paper log leeway. The choices were to take loads you could barely do, or wait until the next day.

I figured a few tricks to the system but I would never voluntarily run E-logs again. I really dread the day these things are mandated.

There is no way to plan for every possible delay when traffic and weather is not under your control. E-logs usually means the 14 hour day becomes 13 or less depending where you are. Driving 11 hours is almost impossible to do without risking a violation if you hit any delay.

I burned through hours much quicker on E-logs and my paper logs were accurate within 15 minutes.

If you get stuck at a shipper for way too long then you are screwed. There is just no room for common sense accommodations.

If you like E-logs then great. I think if they get mandated, they need to at least remove the 14 hour rule.

 

Why should I have to pay for an eobr or a company pay for them? The goverment is going to give them to Mexicans for free. The American driver has paid the way for state Leos ,workers, Canadian drivers, and who knows what all else, now the mexican worker.

 

I got it you don't like the mandate on ELOGS. But ultimately , we are talking about the current HOS rules, too aren't we ?

If the rules were changed to accommodate most exceptions, would you be ok to have a electronic device in your truck that tracks your everyday move ?

Trucking company and drivers will cut each other throats using the "creative paper logging" to undercut any load they can get.

So basically, People that want to run legal don't get what they deserve and a chance to compete. And will stay in the Cat and Mouse chase forever.
And the Industry will still keep its bad reputation.

How would you change it ? Or do you give up on trying to change things around ?

 

Get rid of the 14????????



Why in the hell are you wanting to work more??????




CHARGE MORE WORK LESS!




Never understand the people that will make up for others mistakes without compensation. If a shipper holds you charge them, same goes at the receiver. I just don't get people that insist you can not make money and stay safe inside the current rules.

 

Strawman example... you are making statements that are not only inconsistent with your suppositions, they have no bearing in facts.

You are supposing all drivers that use paper logs cheat. False.

You are supposing that drivers that use E-logs can't/won't cheat. False.

You are supposing all drivers at any given time and location have the same hours left in their 11/14/70. False.

You are supposing that companies using E-logs will not cut rates in order to secure a load. False.

You are supposing that an O/O would prefer to run on thinner margins than a large carrier. While I can't speak for all O/O, I can confidently say that is also, generally, false.

You are supposing that paper log users have an unfair advantage over E-log users. False.

I have run E-logs, ironically for a company whose rates place them near the top of their segment. As I have stated several times in other threads, without making significant adjustments to the HOS in order to introduce some flexibility and accomodate operating differences in the various trucking segments, an across-the-board E-log implementation will significantly increase transportation costs (not necessarily to the benefit of drivers), will significantly reduce solo driver trucks and will all but eliminate the independent O/O, in certain segments.

But maybe that's what they want to have happen.

IMHO.

YMMV.

 

I am being Inconsistent ?

And HOW if the transportation cost would be increased ?
As I said a ELOG system cost as little as $50 per month.

Are we so thin on margins that $50 per month is a industry breaker.

O/O driven out of business ? Not the one that run legals. Only the one that don't.

Why is it that when I stop for my 10, everybody that parks next to me after me are long gone when I wake up in the morning. are they all under the Sleeper berth exemptions ?

I still hear solo drivers running 4000 miles a week. Yes. and you tell me you can do this legally.

I'm done arguing with people that tells me they all run legal and that a box that will definitively prove that they run legal all the time will run them of out business because it will cost them an arm and a leg.

Or even worse, People that run illegal and tell me that's the only way to run.

Good bye.

 

You can get the e-log for an I-phone / I-pad for less than $5 a month. Then run legal to your hearts content.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/truckers-ilog/id329870855?mt=8

 

I don't have a problem with E-logs; I do have concerns about an across-the-board E-log implementation without adjustments made to the HOS and wholesale changes implemented by shippers and receivers. Produce and livestock hauling are two examples where the combined rigidity of the current HOS and E-logs are at odds with how those industry segments operate. It isn't just the drivers, it is the shippers, the receivers, the buyers, the planners and so on. If significant industry changes are not made then there will be increased cost of doing business (something 'ole Frenchy clearly doesn't know anything about). There will be more animal deaths, there will be more spoilage of produce, etc. There will have to be more trucks on the road. Where are the new truckstops? Where are the new rest areas? How soon are shippers going to start expanding their facilities to accommodate trucks that end up out of hours due to waiting for hours?

 

How will more cattle die?

Like an article I read with some lady who hauled cattle requesting weight variances because cattle can move around. Bull Squeeze! Don't load the truck to 80,400 lbs and you wont have a problem. Put teams hauling anything that needs to be direct delivery like pigs,chickens or cows. Or keep the animals within a local range where one driver can deliver.

All of this boils down to people do not want to admit how illegal and potentially unsafe they are now just as Bumpy says. All the rest is cover for that.