Engine Brake Question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by snowbird_89, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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  3. vinsanity

    vinsanity Road Train Member

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    I rarely use jakes. Our company just recently reconfigured ours so they do NOT come on when you lift off the pedal. They only come on after you hit the brake and there is a few second lag at that. Makes them useless.

    I see having them on all the time as a crutch for bad driving habits. That's just my opinion. I was taught to not use them and I think it made be a better driver.
     
  4. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    No apology necessary....Been out there too long, NOTHING bothers me ! Sun's shining, got bucks in my jeans....life is good.
     
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  5. CC1

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    Wow, and Holy S*&% are about all I can come up with after checking the Vid and Pick's out!

    I'd say it's safe to say that if he even stated that he "doesn't run with them on", "your not supposed to .....when it's rainey and wet out.....".
    Then it's also obvious and clear too me that if his thought's were on an upcoming vacation/stop, and his fiancee, and the present's he was gonna give her that he picked up in Pittiesburge............, and NOT on the fact that even if he was a regular runner of Jake brakes(when it's DRY), that his mind was clearly not on the fact that when it begin's to get rainy/wet OR for that matter even really bad cloudy/overcast, just too be safe, then he should have shut them off as the cloudiness/overcast began to roll in

    *Also saw another one you posted with a Windy Hill truch getting cut in half on a train track........ Thank's for the posting's:biggrin_25514:
     
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  6. Licensed to kill

    Licensed to kill Heavy Load Member

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    Perhaps, but it was still warranted. There's no excuse for bad behaviour. Drive safe and have fun. I'm sure we will be trading thoughts in the future.
    Cheers
     
  7. Licensed to kill

    Licensed to kill Heavy Load Member

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    Well, I shouldn't even respond to this but I will anyway
    If you mean "follower" because I learn from others then yes, I am. I listen to what others have to say, ask questions if I need more information, then ponder it and draw my own conclusions as to whether it's acceptable or not. My way of doing things is ALWAYS the best way because if someone introduces me to a better way, I adopt THAT as MY WAY. None of my opinions are carved in stone.

    Actually, it's Licensed to kill and whether it "sounds cool" is open to individual interpretation. The fact is that I AM licensed to kill and that is why I chose that as a screen name just like someone using "Licensed to drive" as a screen name.

    Sorry, I have no idea where you are going with this????.

    I'm pleased that my location makes you happy. I look forward to you sharing some of your trucking wisdom with us.....once you get from "student" to experienced driver.

    Cheers
     
  8. Peterbeatinit

    Peterbeatinit Medium Load Member

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    LMFAO

    Bottom line that yall are seeing in this whole thread is this...Each driver's experience using jakes or about his truck is going to be different..Even the wear of the bearings in the rear ends and wear on the kingpins will cause two trucks of the same model to drive completely different.

    Now...with that said..MY experience of 6 years on the road of which 2 years were as an O/O tells me I and my truck are going to be safer if the jake is on any time the truck is at highway speeds..

    You can do whatever you want in your truck but drive your truck...you can't drive someone else's too and you probably aren't going to change their opinins on the best way to operate their truck without hard proof that they can see to make them change it on their own....

    Thats that..we can argue about it until until all the trucks on the road are powered by hydrogen fuel cells but it isn't going to change any thing out there on the road where it matters.

    Petey
     
  9. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    You are quite a riot....you obviously have no clue what you're talking about. First of all, if you're paying attention to where you're going, you'll never have to "slam" on the brakes. Second, as long as your service brakes are capable of locking up the wheels, you aren't going to cut any distance off your stopping by adding additional braking force to the wheels. I'm not in any way implying that I (or anyone else) mash the foot brake to the floor every time I need to stop, because like I already stated, if you have to slam on the brakes, you screwed up LONG before your foot hit the brake pedal. Third, "Jake Brakes" are a brand....Jacobs Engine Brake....much like Kleenex or Coke. There are other manufacturers of compression brakes, which is why Jacobs Vehicle Systems gets their lawyers involved sending letters to jurisdictions which pass ordinances & post signs prohibiting the use of their trademarked "Jake brakes", instead of using the general terms "engine brakes", "compression brakes", "compression release brakes", etc...

    I'm not going to argue that point...it's just me being lazy & not typing "release" every time I need to refer to it. And yeah, I could go into great detail the differences between a gasoline & diesel engine, why the diesel engine (without any "extra" add-ons) doesn't have the engine braking capabilities of a gasoline engine, and how the compression release (there, ya happy?) brake works, and anything else you might want to know about 'em.:biggrin_25525:
     
  10. TreeStand

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    Jake and engines brakes require energy to work. How does a truck produce energy? Fuel, Physics 101
     
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