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d o g · Oct 26, 2014

There's an ongoing thread in the Politics Forum for those that wish to argue the politics, or the pros and cons of unions:

http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...ngratulations-fed-ex-drivers-east-philly.html

We'd really like to leave this thread open so that the LTL guys can have a place to discuss this particular issue - the vote, in this case. However, that's not going to happen if we can't have a discussion free of the bickering and politics that usually take over threads on the subject of unions. Try to have the discussion without all of that, and we can leave it open. If you want to fight over it, take it to Politics, please.

realdesertkickin · Oct 26, 2014

Unions killed Twinkies and Cup cakes in a country full of fat people...c'mon

MadeinMX · Oct 26, 2014

this is a service center with less than 50 employees who voted. I just wonder if other service center will keep signing up with teamsters like a domino effect.

6 Speed · Nov 2, 2014

Shaggy said: ↑

G/MAN wow, Don't know when to stop spewing crap, do you?
We get it hate unions, You speak so much crap and want to convince others, It's like your trying to convince yourself.

I bet you never worked at a union company and if you can't have it,neither can anyone else.

Come into the LTL / Local thread baiting us. Yeah, Not going to work.
Worked before,the anti- union thread, not here.
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It was not necessary for Gman to admit he doesn't understand,his post scream misunderstanding....LOL

RoadCall · Nov 8, 2014

I laugh at all the people that say Union drivers are overpaid, at least in trucking anyway. How narrow minded can you be, geez. I believe 99% of non Union drivers are UNDERPAID!!! Especially OTR!

6 Speed · Nov 9, 2014

Non Union drivers are suckers,myself included.My company takes full advantage of my time and experience and exploits both at every opportunity.
As someone pointed out,pizza delivery and flower delivery in 4 wheelers easily pays better than trucking.
In most cases.

G/MAN · Nov 9, 2014

6 Speed said: ↑

Non Union drivers are suckers,myself included.My company takes full advantage of my time and experience and exploits both at every opportunity.
As someone pointed out,pizza delivery and flower delivery in 4 wheelers easily pays better than trucking.
In most cases.
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I delivered pizza's when I was in college. Even with tips, it didn't pay as well as trucking.

6 Speed · Nov 9, 2014

G/MAN said: ↑

I delivered pizza's when I was in college. Even with tips, it didn't pay as well as trucking.
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Just yesterday(on this very forum) someone posted a pizza delivery add paying $17/hr.
Maybe you were being taken advantage of.

G/MAN · Nov 9, 2014

6 Speed said: ↑

Just yesterday(on this very forum) someone posted a pizza delivery add paying $17/hr.
Maybe you were being taken advantage of.
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I was paid minimum (or a little more) plus tips and delivery charge. I am sure the $17 includes tips and a delivery charge and is not a guarantee.

Cody1984 · Nov 10, 2014

G/MAN said: ↑

I apologize for misreading the article about the pay raise. I went back and reread it and FedEx did give drivers a wage hike. I didn't see anything in the article about them doing that to avoid unionization, although that was probably the reason.

You are incorrect about me not understanding unions. I know how they work all too well. The try to create dissatisfaction among workers and attempt to disenfranchise them to a point where they can sell them on their union propaganda. They tell workers that the company is taking advantage of them and that they "deserve" their "fair share" of company profits. They use their propaganda to drive a wedge between labor and management. They tell potential members that they "deserve" more benefits, wages, etc., regardless of their contribution to the company. Unions lie to workers and some fall for their propaganda. They do what the liberals have been doing for years. Make people feel like victims and you are their savior and the sheep will follow. Those who support unions don't really understand them or how they operate. Unions are corrupt and have been corrupt since the beginning. Unions not only benefit from member dues, but they are really after the members pensions. This is money unions can use for their own benefit.

I have never understood why some Americans would even contemplate becoming involved with unions. This country was built by entrepreneurs and individuals who were rewarded according to their efforts. We live in such an entitlement society today, that unions know if they can convince workers that they are helpless victims that they can enroll them and pick their pockets. Some of the efforts I have seen lately by unions involve higher paying jobs and workers are already being well compensated. Volkswagen workers in Tennessee initially rejected unions by a comfortable margin. Now, the union has made announcements that they have enough votes to unionize. These workers are already making more than most in the area. Walmart is being sued in California because some of their drivers have been convinced that they are helpless victims of a big corporation, even though most of them earn well over $80,000/year. Yep, those are poverty wages, all right. Now, we see FedEx drivers who want to be victims. It is really crazy and defies logic. I have no doubt the unions are behind the lawsuit in California. Those who participate want something for nothing. When a driver thinks they are being victimize because they only earn $80,000/year, something is really wrong with their thought process.

I do understand the effects of union interference in industry. Like others who have been around for a while, I have seen unions drive companies out of business and forced them to relocate, often out of the country, taking jobs with them. Workers are left high and dry, but the unions move on. There is nothing a union can do for you that you cannot do for yourself except pick your pocket. Union members that I have personally observed are less productive and often lazy compared to their non union counterparts. There is little incentive for union members to be productive. In fact, often higher productivity is discouraged. And I have seen this first hand. I have always decided that if I don't like conditions or pay at a company that I will move on to another company.
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A couple of things I'm going to comment on here.

1. Fedex drivers approached the teamsters about joining there union not the other way around. That is why Fedex was caught off guard by this.

2. This really isn't about pay but about treatment. Fedex is one of those companies if a driver shortage wasn't going on they would fire you the first time you miss a gate time by literally just 1 second. The reason why fedex drivers are unionizing is due to treatment. The fedex driver comments after voting to join the union at two terminals are about needing to be treated better and not constantly threatened that they will lose there job.

3. My father works for fedex and I tried working at fedex but to be blunt they are way way to anal. They were far more anal about stupid **** then the army was when I was enlisted. Frankly I quit the job because the extra 10 to 15k a year was just not worth hating life whenever you are at work. My father would quit Fedex if he didn't have so many years in watkins motor lines before fedex bought them out. My father is just waiting to retire at this point if he was in his 20s, 30s, or 40s he would've quit fedex. The voting for union is really about how drivers are treated and not about pay or benefits.

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