Fifth Wheel Placement

So at work there is one truck that will not scale out at all. The front end is always heavy/overweight. I move the 5th wheel all the way back in the assembly and it is still overweight. I have tried three different trailers with weight placed in different spots. It is not the fact that I don't know how to load a trailer because I do know how to load the trailers that I use at work. So it has come down to unbolting the 5th wheel assembly and moving it back to get it all to work out. Is there any law or legal reason for me not to be able to move the assembly back and rebolt it in a different location that it came from that factory? I see the custom strectched truck rolling down the road with the 5th wheel all the way at the end of the frame and another guy in the shop thought that there was a legal thing behind it. I don't know so please school me on this.

 

I have been overweight anywhere from 400 to 1,500 pounds on the front end where on other trucks it is legal. The gross weight has varied from 67,800 to 75,000 pounds depending on how much weight I add to it. Trying to stay around 74,000 pounds gross. The movement on the slide of the 5th wheel is only 10 inches of movement. The pin location on the trailer does vary. With a box van it is set back farther. With the flatbed it is closer to the front. I never took the time to measure have far back the pin was on the trailer but I did take notice if it was more towards the front. With the flatbed the tandems are in a fixed position and I think that the trailer is only 42'. The tandems on the van are moveable and that trailer is 45'. I am thinking that if I unbolt the 5th wheel assembly and move it back 6 inches that it might weigh out right, but is that enough. The center line of the 5th wheel as it is right now is in the middle of the tandems on the truck. I have been fighting this problem for 3 days.

 

Yes there is a scale where I work. I scaled the truck with the 5th wheel slid all the way forward and then all the way back after that. Is that what you are descibing?

 

I have scaled it with the 5th wheel slid all the way forward and all the way back with two different trailer and weight combination on it. The front axle is a 12,000 lb rated axle. When it is bobtail the front axle is 12,200. With the 5th wheel slid forward it is 13,500 on the steers. With it all the way back the lowest I got the front was 12,380 without me in the truck.

 

Until you explain what you are talking about 123456 I have no idea as to what you are talking about. That is like someone coming up and saying the answer is Topeka. It doesn't get me anywhere.

The original question was is there any legal concerns on why I should not move the 5th assembly further back. Since no one has said yes or no to that then on monday I will change things around and see what I get.