Thanks.
It’s hard to find a good Job today. When I mean good , I mean a job that pays a wage that your proud to work for, like to get up and go to work
( most days) . Has good equipment and is run
Or owned by people that respect you, treat you like they want to be treated and know the trucking business inside and out. And most importantly have the resources and capital to run a company correctly.
Most big companies have way too much micro management and rules etc. Many mom and pop small companies don’t have the resources to run the company the right way ( not all , but many) They live and die over every penny the truck makes and has to be spent to operate the truck. That can get old quick, hearing them piss and moan about finances and repairs on trucks. I tell them, if you don’t have the capital to own trucks and be a real trucking company don’t be in the business . Trucks cost a lot to maintain and run properly, and they break down. With today’s aggressive DOT and CSA scoring it’s not worth running for some small tag tag outfit
With junk equipment even if the pay is decent. It’s too stressful worrying about DOT pulling you in and unloading a bunch of tickets on you
That they put in your name for someone else’s junk .
I’ve always found a medium size company with good pay , decent equipment , strong in maintenance and good direct work was always the best option .
You’ll find that the more specialized work pays better , car hauling, over size , gasoline haulers
Etc pay better . Many want prior experience , but some specialized companies will train you
If you have decent driving experience and a clean background and license.
Fly ash?
Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by TheyCallMeDave, Apr 8, 2018.
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Theres only one problem with everything you wrote.
There's a boatload of truckers who are more than
happy making 6 to 8 hundred per week for their 70
Hours worth of work.
They think they got it made.
It keeps a constant downward pressure on wages
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You find a job yet.
We need some more comic relief on your
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I agree . This is what they get with low pay and
A driver mill that hires almost anyone that comes out of driving school. Goofballs that tear off trailer roofs, take off hoods of trucks in truck stops ( seen it twice, prime and Ruan),
Rollovers , bad wrecks in the snow etc. if the pay was what it should be it might attract a higher caliber person . I’m 53 and have been driving 31 years . There’s always been low paying jobs and low caliber drivers , but with the current economic conditions, ELD nonsense and driver shortage , it’s sort of a perfect storm for drivers and owner operators
To not work cheap and hold out for respectable
Wages and rates. I’ve been offered more jobs in the last couple of months than I can remember.
I had one small outfit with only 5 trucks running
Flatbed direct customer freight offer me $30 hr
With a $2000 a week average for 5 days running a 300 mile radius home everyday on non ELD Pete’s. Sounds like a trucker story , but it’s true. If more companies paid like that
There would be no driver shortage and drivers could make a respectable wage. I have a friend who works for a small company that I’m friends with the owner. She pays him 30% of the true gross of the truck with a $1500 a week guarantee to run Northeast regional home most nights. He grosses between $1500 and $2500 a week to drive the truck. It’s a rebuilt 1995 KW W900 ELD exempt truck. He was an owner operator and parked his truck to work for that kind of money and not have to worry about running his own truck.Western flyer, TheyCallMeDave and REO6205 Thank this. -
You said it right. We pay our drivers by the hour with overtime and good benefits.
We don't baby them but we don't treat them like slaves either.
We have three families that have three generations working here, two on the road and one in the shop.
Most of the guys stay here until they retire and we haven't ever had to advertise for drivers.
Our drivers don't cost us, they make money for us and if we have good drivers that keeps everything running like it should.RockinChair and TheyCallMeDave Thank this. -
I'll have a post on that, which should provide you with adequate entertainment.
I hear ya loud n clear. In my area, you're either going to get on with a large company that runs plastic POS trucks with every ridiculous rule in the book being held over your head, or you're going to work for some small time operation with junk that barely passes inspections, and a boss that will run you into the ground, because as you said, every dime they make is just enough to keep the lights on and the trucks running.
About the best I've come across in terms of "freedom" and equipment was an outfit about an hour and a half from me. All trucks are 2000 or older, all ELD exempt, all 379 petes with the flash and all. You run mostly lumber for a local company which they have a contract with all intrastate here in TX, and at times you run crane parts directly for the trucking company, as they also run drilling rigs. It seemed like a decent outfit the first time I spoke with them about 6 months ago, but at the time my boss raised my pay and I was home daily, so I stuck it out.
The first time I talked to them, they had 8 drivers with plans in the following month to add more trucks and drivers for a total of 21. Fast forward to last week, they contacted me out of the blue and asked if I'd be interested in speaking with them again as they had made some changes. I said "sure." Made the drive, and come to find out, they've gone through 3 "truck pushers/managers" and now they only have 2 drivers total, and never added the additional trucks they had originally planned on adding. I never got a clear answer for that, but their motto now is "running your ### off, hot and heavy" so I'm a bit iffy on it as I have a perfectly clean record and for one, they run nice equipment that is turned up, and they will and do, expect you to run the wheels off those trucks, speed limit be ######, HOS be ######, get the load there, which is exactly what I was told by the owner of the company which is why they run the older trucks that they currently run, and for two, I know #### happens, but if you can't keep a truck pusher/manager, and you're down to just 2 drivers.....then something is seriously wrong, if you ask me. Keep in mind, the fact they run "cool trucks" aside, you'll be expected to skirt the law daily, speed at times, and play artist with your log book daily, all for an average of 1000-1200 bucks a week. For me, if I'm taking said risks, I need to be paid more. A "cool" truck accompanied by that wage is not enough, especially when I'll be going for a week at a time.
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There might be companies like that but they're probably hard to find. Look for a small outfit that has been around awhile. "Small" meaning between ten and thirty trucks and "awhile" meaning at least ten years.
Look for hourly pay with overtime and benefits or some combination of hourly and mileage. A 401k or a profit sharing program is nice, too.
They usually don't have the flashiest trucks but you won't see them broke down by the side of the road very often either. The trucks are usually being driven safely and courteously. Most of the drivers will be older guys. You won't see any hot-rod kids working for them.
You'll never see them advertising for drivers. If they're well established in their area good drivers will know about them and they'll have a steady stream of job applicants.
They usually don't have much driver turnover and getting hired is often a matter of them knowing you already or getting a personal reference from one of their drivers.
Like most other worthwhile things, it takes time and effort to find a good company. But it's worth it.TheyCallMeDave, rbrtwbstr, Western flyer and 1 other person Thank this. -
You're right about that. I've found 2 companies like that within an hour from me by word of mouth from a fellow driver at one point. Only thing is, there's a line around the block with guys that have YEARS of experience waiting to get on there. I'm certainly no slouch when it comes to driving and safety, so I've remained vigilant when it comes to keeping in contact, but the turnover is so low, it could be years before you get on, and that's if you can keep your record clean during that time, and with some of the companies that are out there, keeping your record clean can be a stretch depending on where you get on. Hell at times, I'll just fill up my personal vehicle with gas and just ride around looking for said companies. Besides the two I mentioned that I found over a year ago, I haven't had much luck despite my searching around beating of the bushes. I know they're out there though.REO6205 Thanks this.
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Good luck.
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You run your company like it should be .you realize
You get what you pay for in the type of driver you attract
How they conduct themselves when representing your company and the loyalty they have by staying with you and referring friends and family. All that coupled with good work ,good equipment that's maintained builds a long term successful company. Your drivers have a job that they value,respect and feel that they have a lifetime career. Very hard to find today. But,I think you already know that! Lol!REO6205 and TheyCallMeDave Thank this.
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