Gliders.

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by HighwaySuperTramp, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. HighwaySuperTramp

    HighwaySuperTramp Medium Load Member

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    So I have some questions. I wanna own my own truck again, but help me I want to stay away from emissions, lots of reasons why many of you already know them lol.

    So my thing is what's going on with them in Canada? Like what are the actual rules on them, how long are they still legal for, where can I order one?

    Or is it easier to buy an older 1999-2005 truck and rebuild? What dealers are the best to deal with?

    Anything would be considered a help guys/gals.

    Thanks.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    I think the noose is tightening.
    Over my way there's a couple places I can think of that are still building them. Erg equipment in Ayr Ontario and 12 gauge customs in guelph I think. Last I heard they were 225 and up for whatever chrome and lights you want.

    My uncle who does logging in northern Ontario his boss buys all gliders until recently. Now he says you need the title to a wrecked truck in order to buy one from the manufacturer. Or so he claims. When the time comes for me I will ask 12ga or erg how to go about it. So far my emissions machine is working as designed. Knock on wood..
     
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  4. HighwaySuperTramp

    HighwaySuperTramp Medium Load Member

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  5. Weekend Warrior

    Weekend Warrior Light Load Member

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    Was quite surprised to see a used one on Auto Trader here in Sask last week.
     
  6. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    St Catherine's freightliner also building still?
     
  7. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Oh yeah, probably, forgot about them.
     
  8. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    I posted the rules here before; just do a search. I think in the past the rules weren't really being enforced, but as @gokiddogo says, I think the noose is tightening. All of this is just my opinion though as I have not really investigated it in the last half-dozen years.

    There were a couple of outfits building them and they may be reliable sources. Just be careful though, that someone doesn't just tell you what you want to hear.
     
  9. AModelCat

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    As most folks who've been around the industry know gliders were basically sold as a replacement part (complete chassis). Originally just intended to be used in cases where a truck was written off but the powertrain was still salvageable. Or in cases where the truck's useage beats the chassis apart long before the powertrain is worn out. Its only been in the last decade that people have been using them to skirt emission laws.

    Doing some reading on the subject its kind of interesting that Transport Canada doesn't recognize a glider as a "vehicle" as it is not able to move by itself when delivered by the manufacturer. They call it "an assembleage of parts"
     
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  10. Weekend Warrior

    Weekend Warrior Light Load Member

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    Released in May:
    Canadian Government Publishes Final Rule on GHG, Glider Kits

    The long and short of it is this:
    "According to the final rule, glider kits are allowed as long as one of a number of conditions is met. The conditions stipulate that:

    • The engine has not reached the end of its useful life since it was manufactured;

    • The engine has accumulated less than 100,000 miles;

    • The engine is at least as recent as the 2010 model year and less than three years have passed since the engine’s original date of manufacture."
     
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  11. uncleal13

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    No, they stopped building them just over a year ago. He posted that Freightliner wouldn't supply him anymore.
     
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