Going intermodal without a broker / POD paperwork

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  1. firefire876

    firefire876 Bobtail Member

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    Forgive me for being a noob but I'm new to the owner operator game. I've been doing Class A LTL for 1.5 years. Now I'm in a bit of a strange situation.

    My father owns a truck through his small business with an intermodal trailer, but his driver quit on him so I've agreed to step in and take his place. He had previously been working with a broker who had the driver hauling boxes from various shippers to the Port of Seattle 5 days a week, but he wants to cut ties and find our own loads using loadboards.

    My question is - has anyone here had success doing this, and if so, what are some pitfalls to avoid? Secondly, without a broker how do you typically handle POD paperwork and what are your tips on not getting screwed over on payment for loads?

    Thank you.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    If you want to cut out the broker and haul directly for the customer, using load boards is not the typical way to go about it. You have to go out there and find your own customers. The customers don't usually use load boards directly themselves. You will just find more brokers with customers of their own. Maybe they pay better than your current situation, maybe they pay less. It also depends on the value you place on sustainable relationships over the long term. When times are good, you can squeeze them. When times get lean, they will remember and can hang you out to dry. The same can be said for their side. When times are lean, they could pay you decent, but will you continue to work on a more level basis over the long term? There is no easy answer to that question.

    I am not sure how containers work. Is it one huge shipper, the shipping company, maybe Maersk for example? Or is it a plethora of small businesses hiring brokers to have their can picked up at the port or moved to the port? If it is several small customers, you might be ok. If you are a very small company offering limited capacity, the huge shipping company probably won't want anything to do with you. So consider all that before you burn your current bridge.
     
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  4. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    It's tough to get customers to deal with carriers direct. I wonder what the OPs dad cut ties with the broker? It seems like you would have no choice but to.use brokers when hauling cans, especially if you aren't a mega
     
  5. firefire876

    firefire876 Bobtail Member

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    What he told me is that he set up a relationship with a broker before even buying the truck. They talked him into buying his own chassis, then changed their policy 6 months later requiring everyone to rent a chassis from them for a steep fee.

    If it is the case that loadboards aren't really an option for intermodal, how would we go about finding a company to drive for? I've heard companies like JB Hunt or Evans are good, but I don't think they operate over here.

    We're based out of a small town (Pasco WA) and haven't had a lot of luck finding a better broker who needs another truck either.
     
  6. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    We were operating with Nolan when we did the container cotton loads. We the lady in charge left there. I always thought that you leased chassis, and the fee went down after so long....you ought to give JB Hunt or Schneider a call just to see what they say about their intermodal division. The just might work with you
     
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