Help with creative logging ^.-

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Zephirus, Jun 6, 2009.

  1. ETCH5858

    ETCH5858 Medium Load Member

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    You can drive 11 and work 14. That gives you 2 hours after you figure your 2 30 minute breaks. Anything else is cheating.
     
  2. psanderson

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    Nothing in part 395 restricts you to working 14-hours. True, you may only drive for 11, but nothing says you can't work for the next 26 hours just so long as you don't drive after the 14th hour. There's a big difference between the words drive and work.

    (a) No motor carrier shall permit or require any driver used by it to drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle, nor shall any such driver drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle: (1) More than 11 cumulative hours following 10 consecutive hours off-duty; (2) For any period after the end of the 14th hour after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty, except when a property- carrying driver complies with the provisions of Sec. 395.1(o) or Sec. 395.1(e)(2). (b) No motor carrier shall permit or require a driver of a property- carrying commercial motor vehicle to drive, nor shall any driver drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle, regardless of the number of motor carriers using the driver's services, for any period after-- (1) Having been on duty 60 hours in any period of 7 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier does not operate commercial motor vehicles every day of the week; or (2) Having been on duty 70 hours in any period of 8 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier operates commercial motor vehicles every day of the week.

    From the old retired federal DOT official
     
  3. mceheel

    mceheel Light Load Member

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    I rescently rode with this guy that has a contract with columbia forest products in old fort nc. He has three full time drivers that run their raw materials and their finished product from one warehouse to their main plant. I have seen this girl load a full flat-bed trailer with plywood in less than 10 minutes and these guys strap their loads in less than 20 minutes.I have seen MceLroy drivers & Dominion Logistics drivers do the whole thing in less than an HOUR. I'm sure you have to get your routine and just build on it.
     
  4. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    We would never dream of telling someone else to lie in there log books. I never (no matter the load or trailer configueration) show more than 30 min for loading or unloading, the rest of the time I spend in the sleeper, HONEST, or I would not logit that way....
     
  5. psanderson

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    But this sleeper time must be considered and added toward your 14-hour rule based on the definitions I posted on the other thread regarding this unless it was for 8-hours & part of a split rest.
     
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    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Yea, but it does not count against your 70.
     
  7. Ken Worth

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    Do everything strictly by the book.