John deere

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  1. snowman_w900

    snowman_w900 Road Train Member

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    Sometimes low voltage from weak batteries will cause this. Also, a bad ground can cause this as well. Otherwise, the solenoid is bad.
     
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  3. DougA

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    A 66 5020 still had that crazy JD 12 volt-24 volt start deal,without using a parallel switch.I think the later 5020's went to 12 volt start.If it was jumped wrong it could have stuck the solenoid with not enough voltage.Solenoid just bolts on top of the starter.If it' hasn't been converted to 12 volt start,you'll need the 24 volt one.
    Some of the port destinations in Dundalk require the machine to start from the seat,when you bring it in or they'll send you back out.Some will help you.I know it's to late,but you should have made the shipper get it running correctly for you.Have been through this at Dundalk before.
     
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  4. 25(2)+2

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    They used a split 12 volt system 12 volt positive ground for the armature, if I recall correctly and 12 volt negative ground for the fields, they also split the lights to keep the voltage balanced. Some positive ground and some negative.

    I'm thinking one bad battery could do this, pretty sure the solenoid is one or the other because of the split electrical.
     
  5. AModelCat

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    How can you have both positive and negative ground at the same time? Obviously I'm guessing they don't use the frame as a common grounding point because that'd cause a major short.
     
  6. 25(2)+2

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    It wasn't a good way to do it, in 1969 they used 2 six volts in series, possibly the 5020 still used 4 six volts in series parallel.

    I switched a 3010 diesel to 12 volt when the starter went, had a starter off a newer one that I had rebuilt and put on a Delco alternator, just simple, really, as long as you could come up with a 12 volt starter.
     
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  7. DougA

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    Yeah,I don't think this was one of Deeres better ideas.Had an old 730 Diesel electric start,used to drive me crazy.
     
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    The ones with the pony motors had less electrical problems.

    A neighbor had a 730 diesel, electric start, it smoked like a steam engine when it was pulling hard.

    The 830 had the same engine run at higher rpm, again if i recall correctly, and got better fuel economy by horsepower hours per gallon. He had one of those later on and I drove it for an afternoon. It was different.
     
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    Yes I had a 720 pony for a long time,great tractor,miss that one.Shouldn't have sold it.The only problem I had with it was if you forgot to shut the pony ignition off after it started,it would burn the pony coils up,and they weren't cheap.
     
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    I found something about the John Deere 24 volt electrical system on petcare.net.

    I know, very funny. It explained it pretty well. It's pretty long to read and has diagrams. Those systems worked well until they didn't and few knew how to fix them.

    One thing I do remember is it takes much more capacity in the wiring and components, the 24 volt starter was much lighter in weight than the 12 volt Delco.
     
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    I agree!
     
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