Lease Purchase Programs?

You asked me a few posts ago why lease guys are so defensive? This is why.

Even though I can see that there is an attempt to make a point in your post about the freedom of choices that you don't get in a lease, you still insist on throwing in a thinly veiled insult into your post. So, instead of getting your point across in an attempt to be helpful, anyone who reads that is going to focus on your attitude and not what you're trying to say.

That condescending attitude is exactly what pisses me off. I don't care how long you've been driving, that does not make you better than me. It does not make you smarter than me. It makes you more experienced... and I'm willing to bet you've probably got some great advice for new drivers, but no one is going to listen to you if you're going to sarcastically insult them while dispensing that advice.

(And this next statement may get me into trouble with the moderators here, and if it does, I apologize in advance if you have to jump in here and yell at me, but I have to say this.)

You don't have any idea how much "business sense" that I or anyone else on here has, and just because we decide to do things differently than you does not mean that we're wrong. So you're successful - that's great. But if you can't have enough respect, professional courtesy, and common decency to answer my question in a helpful and informative manner, then please just shut up and go somewhere else.


To the other posters on this page - all of your posts are helpful and offer some good advice. Rollin coal, I have to disagree with your statement "Lease Purchase with JCT or whoever, sorry that ain't a plan no matter how close you've studied it....", but the other advice in your post is both helpful and informative. As has been said before, lease purchasing is not a guaranteed path to failure. But it is going to require my paying attention to everything and going in knowing what I'm walking into. It is going to take several years to reach the higher levels of success, but either way I am going to have to pay for a truck, and making payments is a perfectly fine way of doing that.

If anyone has any further helpful advice or would like to discuss my questions further, please feel free to chime in. My future posts on this thread from now on are going to be limited to responding to those who provide helpful advice, I will be ignoring those who have nothing to contribute.

 

Every single thing he said makes total sense. I don't disagree with any of it. One day, I hope to reach the level where I'm completely independent. But the sarcastic attitude is not needed, he can say the same thing without implying that I'm stupid or don't have "business sense".

I really has nothing to do with thick skin or whatever. Although his attitude irritates me, it is not going to affect my life in any way. But it's just flat our disrespectful, and it's unnecessary. Never once, in any of your posts, did you resort to insulting me or being condescending about what you were trying to tell me.

I know it's not a perfect world, but these forums here have been a significant help to both myself and many other new drivers, and when someone answers a post with that kind of attitude, it's a slap in the face to everything that they guys here at TTR have been trying to accomplish.

There is no point in displaying that attitude other than to make oneself feel superior to others, and that is the only purpose it serves. But it doesn't matter really, I've received several PMs offering very helpful advice from different people after my last post, probably because they don't want to jump into the fire pit that this thread is becoming, and that's sad, because their info could help others. And since that info isn't getting out, someone else will post the same questions again in the future, and this ridiculous cycle will start all over again.

But, his actual information was received and understood.

 

Look, like I said before, your advice is solid. And I hope to one day reach your level of success, I really do. Even if the post wasn't aimed at me, why put in sarcastic comments at all? You have a ton of knowledge that can benefit a lot of drivers. You may not be able to change the world, so to speak, but if you can help just a few drivers out there improve themselves, become more successful, or become safer, that's something to be #### proud of.

Maybe I missed the tone of your message, maybe it was meant to be a joke, and we'd be laughing about it if talking in person. It's easy to misread someone when reading text, as opposed to reading body language and listening to the tone of someone's voice. So I could have easily misinterpreted you.

Here's some food for thought for you and all of the other long term drivers out there: Those of us who are new could easily look up to you as mentors. But I see so many new guys who refuse to speak to experienced drivers because so many of them treat the newbies like they're stupid. Whether it's joking or not, you're undermining everything you say if the other guy doesn't realize you're joking. And you guys with the knowledge and experience are going to be the only ones with the power to change things for the better. If they ever do manage to listen, Congress is not going to ask the opinions of a 1 year driver like me... they're going to look to a 20+ year driver like yourself.

Just my two cents worth I suppose.