log book citation/warning

If you run local, and meet all of the requirements to operate under the 100 air mile exemption, then you do not need to complete a RODS. Any day which you do NOT meet the requirements to operate under the 100 air mile exemption, you DO need to complete a RODS for that day. If you are typically a local driver and are sent outside of the 100 air mile radius...or work past the 12th hour....or don't make it back to your starting location....then you need a log book page for the current day reflecting your day's activities. You do NOT need pages for the previous 7 days since you were exempt from the RODS requirements on those days.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/truck/driver/hos/hos-faqs.asp

In other words, it isn't a "pre-trip" book, but rather a "post-trip" book. Not having it signed for the day is NOT a violation, as long as the previous days are all accounted for. Even if a previous day is NOT accounted for in the book, the book stays with the vehicle...NOT with the driver. If you worked, but drove a different truck, you would not have a post-trip sheet in the truck you are in now....because you didn't drive that truck on the day in question.

The purpose of the book is to notify the company and/or the next driver of the truck of any issues you experienced that might need their attention....not for the DOT to verify that you have been doing your vehicle inspections. All they can really do is verify that the vehicle HAS an inspection book, and that it has had an entry made for each day the truck has been driven.

 

There is no "book" required, in fact there is no inspection required.


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this was kinda dragged out, he said his friend was doing a "local" run, not that he was or is a local driver.. which means he's supposed to have a log book.. I'm OTR and i do local runs everytime i head back out after home time.. i still have to follow the 11, 14, 70 even though i'm never more then 30mi away from the terminal.

 

Absolutely


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If they didn't write a ticket theres no court you're friend is screwed it will be on his csa crap for two or three years. He should have known what to say before going in scalehouse. " I'm a local driver and comapny has only one power unit" that eliminates eveything they could try and do, unless you had something mechanically wrong. The only use I see for dot folks is seppuku, I'd gladly be their second.

 

So he was caught in violation and the whiners are still on here saying the cop was screwing him??

How about logging what your doing? Would have been no problem then.
How about knowing the regs for 100 or 150 AMR drivers? He would have had no problem then.

No much better to make veiled threats, and make up paranoid rants about an Officer doing his job.



You could file a DataQ but he was in violation so likely it would stick. It will show up on His companies CSA SMS page and if they garner enough attention and get audited it will show up on him during that audit. In addition it will appear for the next 36 months on his PSP report if he were to switch companies the new company might pull.

It will not be on his MVR.

 

Why don't you try to file DataQ? I have.
They send it back to state that wrote it they re-rubber stamp it and thats it.
I have case going right now I haven't been found guilty, the case was continued due to officer couldn't come to court. Officer has done admitted under oath in court she done a driver only inspection and wrote a vehicle violation, whuch is legally impossible. and then said they can do inpsections like that. So I haven't been found guilty and I plead innocent so wheres my constitutional right of innocence until proven guilty? it shows up as if I done this violation but it's not proven.

So do tell your experience with dataq's?
You seem to be a cheerleader for ray lahood and co.?
I can name catagorically how csa 2010 vilolates our constitutional rights.
I bet you don't think we have rights casue we drive a truck?

 

local or otr. we all hava to have a trip inspecvtion book.

last time i got pulled in. i was told 150 miles. but that weas before csa.

locals don't do logs unless you work over 12 hours. 11 + 1/'2 hour for lunch and 1/2 for pre and post,

locals run on the 60 hour 7 day rule.

tyhe oil haulers around here do logs though. and there trip is 120 air miles out and back. about 9 hours is all they work.

 

Told you before. Back up your mythical case with a docket number. You and your pal shreddy sure love fantastic tales back it up with fact.



I have had a dataq remove a violation on an inspection.

We've covered your bs about unconstitutional so I'll not clog up the OP's thread.




Now lets look at the facts of his post.


His buddy was running a commercial vehicle in violation of FMCSR's. He could have lied and said he was just local but clearly it would have been a lie as he had no clue what those exemptions and provisions require such as time card and duty reporting location.

The result is he was legally placed out of service.
He got caught and your mad at the Officer for doing his job if only partially. See I think he should have recieved a fine that the Officer was nice enough to leave out. Stupid decisions like violating regulations should be painful. Just getting ten hours off is not enough IMO. Have I told you my theory of 30% need to be removed?

 

if that's your company rule that's fine but otherwise no you do not, the last DVIR completed is all you need.

other than max driving time there is no rule saying what you can or cannot do during the 12 hrs.

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