Logging Question - "Rollback Hours"?

I sent you a private message, I have a powerpoint I can send you on the 70 hour and the 34 restart, but I do not see how to do an attatchment. It might help a little to see recap and log and words? I don't know it is up to you! If you want I gave you my e-mail address and I can reply with the attatchment. Anyone who would like to review it let me know? You can view it just by reading, but funner doing the power point:smt044

 

Is doing a 34 "normal operating procedure"?

I realize most drivers may get...uh...creative with their times and things, but do they take a 34 while out on a 3 week run?

Also, my son's truck has Qualcomm....does the unit auto track how much he drives and stops?

 

I replyed to the email address you sent.

I would be grateful for anything you sent (I have, and know how to use, the MS Office package).

 

that depends on the services his company pays for.

 

Most companies do make use of the 34 hour provision, though they have the option of not doing so. If a driver is out for multiple weeks, then usually they will reset somewhere on the road (uggggh!) spending the weekend in a truck stop if unlucky and in a hotel somewhere if they are smarter.

Quallcom can be used to track things, but only in a crude fashion at this time. Most companies don't use it in that manner. And checking the Quallcom and micromanaging the truck and driver at the other end of it requires a bit of manpower at the other end.

And legally, there is no provision that woudl prevent him from dropping the trailer somewhere and driving the truck out to eat while doing a reset, and that might trip the Quallcom unit as to truck movement, but it is perfectly legal to do. No rules say that once you park for a 34 hour break, that you have to eat only where you are. You cannot do productive work during the period of the reset, but you can still drive around within reasonable distances.

 

the hours you posted do not reflect an 11 hour driving day, at least not each and every day. if he's not driving the maximum hours per day, his company can get "on his rear" for not producing...........

forget about the "reset 34 hours" and such, he has a 14 hour (total) work hours to do each and every day. he needs to show his company he can handle that..........if not, the company can cut his miles, since he's proving he cannot do the job.............

 

BURKY is correct: You can use hours from the 1st of your last 7 days every nite at midnight. If you take a 34 hour reset you are good though!
A dispatcher would want you to work if you can run off the hours you gain every nite and why wouldn't you?

As for not doing much work: Some drivers believe that line 4 time comes out of their 11 hours of driving time available; THIS IS NOT TRUE!
Some drivers go to the extreme of line 4 time: Ask him how much time he is logging on line 4 every day, if it is more than 1 hour he is probably one of those drivers and I need to talk to him so he can make more money! l.o.l.

 

Getting creative is what costs drivers so much and is really my soapbox issue to be honest, log itas you do it is the best policy, there are posts on this forum about what has happened to drivers who got creative and found themselves in an accident....remember your log book can be verified by cell phone calls, toll receipts, fuel recipts etc......I would think most drivers would have to do a restart in a 3 week period unless of course they only run something like 8.25 hours per day TOTAL,

 

that's the way i always did my logs, as i did the job. i let the "creativeness writers" do what they do best................ make movies...........

 

LUV: If he is running low on hours then it would depend (same thing Burky said I think) on how many hours he gains every nite. Like the example I e-mailed you; this driver is only gaining 3 hours at Midnight (12:01 am) and he used all his hours up on his 8th day. So he would have to be off at least until the following day @ midnight when he would gain another 8.5 hours. Then he would have a total of 11.5 hours. But it would be best if you are off 24 hours to go ahead and stay another 10, but he wouldn't have to, because he is gaining hours every night from then on.
Kinda make more sense. A restart is something you think about do I need it? Do I really stay another 10 after being down 24? It is up to the driver and how hungry the wife & kids are? The more he stays on the road the more money he makes (legally) but they always have to look at the future days to know what is coming and where he might be when down 34 hours. I say if he is home and he stays 24 he might as well reset and enjoy you 10 more hours