Need help checking a drivers log book!

If you are pre-2000, you are exempt from ELD, at least for now.

If I stop you with Keeptrucking I will request you email (or fax) me your 8 day logs for inspection. There is no need to transcribe anything to paperlogs. Keeptrucking is acceptable. Non-ELD electronic formats are held to the same rules as paper logs.

 

Scalemaster- if you stop me, can I hit you in the belly with my logbook/manifest binder like Kris Kristofferson did to Ernest Borgnine?

 

My concern is not being able to connect to the "cloud" or not be able to present last 8 days "on-demand" due to some glitch at the time of inspection.

Can you let me proceed with a "email them to me later?"

 

@Scalemaster we are in agreement, although sadly not all your brothers agree with the regulations as written. I have been placed OOS in San Jon, NM for 10, when the CVSA criteria does say 8 for a form and manner violation. I signed the log page at the beginning of the day, he wrote it as form and manner. Then again the same officer also stacked lighting violations in the past and also placed me OOS at one time for no previous 7 days when I had been operating under short haul until that day.

This is why when I give advice I try to have the driver be as technically correct as possible, to make their pages look just like the training examples so that less is left up to roadside interpretation and officer discretion. Please do no read any disrespect into this statement, you are a stand up guy and know your job very well, unfortunately not all MCE folks are as dedicated to professionalism. As you highlighted in my first reply, I stated although not illegal it is not recommended. It also makes back office recordkeeping easier when multiday pages are split by month.

 

No, you cannot email them later. If you have connectivity issues, you might want to get a printer so you can print them out and carry them with you.

When I stop you, if you cannot present your 8 day logs by email or fax, then you have to print them. 395.8 paper log rules apply.

 

@Scalemaster

I have 2 questions that I can never get a straight answer to:

1. Do I have to go into the scale house if I'[m bobtailing?
2. What's the max distance I can travel on Personal Conveyance? What if Im on PC for 200-300 miles headed home i.e Drop trailer and decide to head-on back home, over 300 miles away?

 

1. There is no strait answer as every state is diffrent. But for the most part yes. Unless otherwise stated it's all commercial trucks. Some are all vehicles over a specific weight.

Here is a list.
http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/weigh-stations/

2. There are few regulations (unladen and oos) and only two guidances for pc, which is why it's confusing.

1. To/from resturant and lodging.
2. To/from home and terminal.​

Note it says terminal. Just droping it at a customer and pc 1 mile you are in violation if the officer wants to.

 

But what if I have no "terminal". I have my own authority and Im running a 2-3 day gig, and when done, I head home, AS IN from wherever that trip ended to straight home (300 miles away)?

 

That's the point. Thete are no regs on the book allowing you to pc that drive. You are at the controls of a cmv. By definition that is on duty driving. Will some officers overlook it if you claim pc? Sure, but they don't have to.

 

Hmmmm...

AFAIK, PC guidelines are:

1. Not under dispatch
2. Not under load
3. Headed home/hotel
4. Distance not clarified

I cannot find any "technicality" for an officer to hang on