Need help with cdl restriction

What state did you get your license?
Seems out of sync with other states.

I have my CDL-A but for busses I would have to test in a bus ... My combo test didn't cover buses.

 

I'm in Ontario which far as I knew was the worst of nanny provinces with asinine rules. Apparently some of the states at least are worse.

 

My state requires a separate road test for commercial truck and passenger. Stupid as hell.

When I took my written test, I took all the endorsements at once; it is same fee for taking one test or all of them so I said what the heck lets get it done. Passed them all at once, but they wouldn't give me passenger and School bus endorsements without paying for and testing separately driving a School bus.

 

Well that flashing stop sign isn't as easy to operate as the old ladies make it look and not just anyone can open a door or stop at train tracks. A bus is FAR more complex than some cretin like you could POSSIBLY fathom don't ya know?

 

3 years after the poor guy gets to the front of the line... sheesh.

 

I had the exact same problem. Lol so now I am fully "qualified" to haul tankers and hazmat, or double tankers full of hazmat if I want, even though I have never touched a double or a tanker.... But I am not able to drive a 20 foot bus. Makes sense.

 

bring a lunch?

 

asinine rules know no boundaries

 

I guess I am becoming a grouch in my old age but why do people answer these kinds of questions and from the answer they don't have a clue? This is NOT a mistake by the DMV. The DMV is following federal rules. I will post the FMCSA rule so you can plainly see why this happened.


§ 383.95: Restrictions.


(a) Air brake. (1) If an applicant either fails the air brake component of the knowledge test, or performs the skills test in a vehicle not equipped with air brakes, the State must indicate on the CLP or CDL, if issued, that the person is restricted from operating a CMV equipped with any type of air brakes.

(2) For the purposes of the skills test and the restriction, air brakes include any braking system operating fully or partially on the air brake principle.

(b) Full air brake. (1) If an applicant performs the skills test in a vehicle equipped with air over hydraulic brakes, the State must indicate on the CDL, if issued, that the person is restricted from operating a CMV equipped with any braking system operating fully on the air brake principle.

(2) For the purposes of the skills test and the restriction, air over hydraulic brakes includes any braking system operating partially on the air brake and partially on the hydraulic brake principle.

(c) Manual transmission. (1) If an applicant performs the skills test in a vehicle equipped with an automatic transmission, the State must indicate on the CDL, if issued, that the person is restricted from operating a CMV equipped with a manual transmission.


(2) For the purposes of the skills test and the restriction, an automatic transmission includes any transmission other than a manual transmission as defined in § 383.5.

(d) Tractor-trailer. If an applicant performs the skills test in a combination vehicle for a Group A CDL with the power unit and towed unit connected with a pintle hook or other non-fifth wheel connection, the State must indicate on the CDL, if issued, that the person is restricted from operating a tractor-trailer combination connected by a fifth wheel that requires a Group A CDL.


From § 383.5.

Manual transmission (also known as a stick shift, stick, straight drive or standard transmission) means a transmission utilizing a driver-operated clutch that is activated by a pedal or lever and a gear-shift mechanism operated either by hand or foot. All other transmissions, whether semi-automatic or automatic, will be considered automatic for the purposes of the standardized restriction code.

 

I have that song by the Pointer Sisters in my head now
"Automatic"