After nearly 50 pages of the gun thread, I see it going in circles, and I itch to discuss alternatives, since although I believe in right to carry, the risk of jobs, incarceration by idiots, and so forth, behooves me to speak.
I got pretty good long ago with nunchucks, which are pretty much illegal everywhere (I hear) - and used to use a set made from hammer handles (nice hard hickory!) and parachute cord to check my tires. I became very glad one night I had them when attacked by a drunken wannabe stabber. He won't stab anyone with THAT hand again...
Truck break-in. Can't swing a bat, chucks, or anything longer than a tire iron.
You need to shoot, stab, kick, spray, elbow, or jump out. So one should decide what is legal to have inside within reach and be ready to use it.
Outside truck. Awareness is the first weapon, as you'd likely be accosted from behind or simply suddenly. To lock the door or not to lock? Hm. To run or fight? Hm. To maim/disable or delay? Hm. To risk a headshot of some kind or bodymass? Hm.
There are so many variables, I believe you should have a personal mode of operation thought out, and be prepared to innovate. Nothing ever goes as planned and nothing is worth your life. And nothing happens like on TV...you won't kick his butt after he plugs you: it hurts.
I think the biggest decision in a situation is to decide and act on who is in control. I won't try to hit someone with a gun on me, but he'd better KEEP it on me. It also depends on what he wants. Money in my wallet? Yours. Cellphone? Yours. My truck? Depends, but probably yours for a minnit.
I asked the president of the Outlaws MC in Norfolk Va. why he carried 3 guns. He was a little pecker, but he said "Never get caught with your pants down". That means, don't come at me with a knife, dipstick. And I'm not carrying a gun either. Only because of the old saying..."The Law is an Axx!"
What can you add? Screwdriver, chisel, tire knocker, iron, pencil/pen, clipboard edge, load lock, short chain, elbows, knees and hands, heel, flashlight.
Defensive shields: pillow, coat, clipboard (doubles as weapon when clipped over fingers), bunk curtain, load lock, co-driver.
That's just off the top of my head and obviously aimed at the average, untrained driver and women. And since some drivers carry guns, it's a good thing that the bad boyz know it. That way, they don't see us all as easy prey. Your worst enemy is a 16 yr. old with something to prove to his buddies; they have no sense, compassion, or conscience. Working in the Hoods in Atlanta taught me that.
Oh, one last 'rule'...bodyshots are a sure thing with ballistic weaponry - you may miss the head. BUT...otherwise, bodyshots don't do as much damage as a head shot. Punch me in the stomach and I'll laugh at you. The head is another matter. I can't hit you if all I can see is your chops, knuckles, and stars.
Nonballistic weaponry
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Red Fox, Mar 2, 2009.
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I ratchet strap my doors at night so a would be would have to break windows to get in giving me time to grab my brass modified brass knuckles. Im in the belief category that we should be aloud to carry however there are alot of people who have guns that have never shot them. This could cause more problems if everyone had one.
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I think breaking into trucks, while a driver is sleeping or in the cab is fairly uncommon. As you said it's good that some driver's do carry, as I think many criminals would be afraid to awake an angry trucker even if they're not carrying.
The risk is more when you're getting in and out of the truck or in unfamiliar territory. I got robbed at gunpoint in downtown Charlotte a few years ago at a laundromat. I was parked near downtown, waiting to make a delivery, and went to a laundromat nearby. I was the only one in the laundromat reading a newspaper when the thief entered with his weapon drawn demanding cash. I sure wish I had my gun then as I thought he was going to pull the trigger when he left after trying to force me into the bathroom and making me count to ten. -
i use a very clever sort of camoflauge, i look broke.
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Well, my 'weapons' are attitude, attitude, and more attitude for starters. Following that is the skills I learned growing up with brothers in a neighborhood full of boys. I don't 'cat fight', I fight dirty, and I know where to hit and kick you to hurt you enough so I can get away to safety.
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Only problem is that attitude, even a big bad one, WITH hitting and kicking, would probably place third in a "gun, knife, attitude" contest. In reality, just about anything non ballistic would place third, though.
Talking non ballistic, I personally like pepper spray, and /or a zapper, preferably both, spray, then zap! (OUCH!). Easy to carry, cheap, legal in MOST states, and watching the cop shows, I like the results.
Another plus about either of them, is that both are supposedly non-lethal, NORMALLY, lessening the chance of a day in court explaining why you ruined some poor innocent crooks life.
Don't know the name of them, but some of the "Soldier of Fortune" type mags sell something similar to a pointed pencil, but made of resin, or even metal. About 4 or 5" long, most attach to a key ring, making them easy to carry; can use as a stabbing tool, looks like they would take an eye out quick.
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My preferred weapon is a self activating mobile attack unit. Or... a dog. I have used guns, and they have failed me. A gun is a good method of protection, if you have it ON you and are able to get it out and ready in time. I do not deny that a gun is a good protection unit. But in my situation the gun was locked, with the bullets out, and served no real purpose unless I thought I could slug the guy in the head with the #### thing. Getting to a gun, unlocking, loading, aiming, and firing is time consuming, and most people underestimate the amount of time in a situation where a gun would help. You really don't have a whole lot of time to react.
A well trained dog is ALWAYS armed, but never dangerous. I can't hand a loaded gun to a kid but I can leave the dog and the kid together and know aside from accidentally scratches that all dogs and kids happen to get together, there will be no major accident. The dog will chase if told, he will bite if provoked, and he will return if told. That is another major thing to me, because shooting a gun is final, you do it and someone is going to be badly hurt or dead and you can't stop it once the trigger is pulled. I can recall the dog.
Dogs can be shot, thats what some nutty gun owners tell me, and I've had a dog shot. This is true, but so can you if you don't draw your gun and have it ready to go first right? Thats my take on it anyway. No guns, but I do have a dog. A very well trained expensive dog.
Oh and a taser... jic.
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EVERYTHING is a weapon if you feel threatened. A ballpoint pen can be as effective as knitting needles or a marlin pike or a bayonet. I look quickly around the truck and see an air hose on the back of the seat to distract, a dog bowl to bash, a smelly sock to bind, a steal toed boot to club, pens, knives, ropes etc, etc, etc ...
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True, just that some things feel more weapon like than others.
Once had a fellow come at me with a 3/4" drive breaker bar, while I was holding a water hose. Although the faucet was on, I didn't feel my weapon was in the same class as his. (sometimes retreating is a very good option!) -
Droy, I agree with you that retreat is a good option. Usually the best option. I am sure you understood my premise however, and if I were confronted with a breaker bar and no other option I would rather face it with a running garden hose than with a welcoming smile and hearty handshake. None of us should become a victim for lack of trying.
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