Not being able to edit logs

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Slargtarg, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. Slargtarg

    Slargtarg Light Load Member

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    Just started a new job, not so bad so far.

    One thing thats bothering me though, is unlike my previous job, they will not let me edit on duty/off duty time with elogs. My first job would not let me edit drive time, but I could edit any time that the truck was not moving. Now with this company once its logged its set in stone unless I can get the company's safety officer to edit it.

    Now I don't cheat or drive illegally, but now I find myself taking extra long breaks because either I forgot to go off duty immediately on stopping, or the computer screwed up and put me on duty, when I was supposed to be off duty. Most of these times its not worth it to haggle with the safety officer over 10-15 minutes here and there. One of these days its going to bite me in ### when I'm on a very tight schedule, or some day I'm going to have to drive in violation through the night until I can contact the safety officer in the morning when he gets into work because a break wasn't properly recorded.

    Elogs systems are computers, and many of them have quite a bit of problems/glitches. I think not allowing edits of off duty/on duty time are an unnecessary burden.
     
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  3. driverdriver

    driverdriver Road Train Member

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    Please let everyone here know what company this is. This is bs not being able to edit. I myself have went to on duty for post trip and have forgotten to switch a couple times.
    One time I went in and got a bite to eat an came back to the truck an went bed still on ON DUTY. LMAO.
    So... What company is this?
     
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  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    You can't edit drive time. That's just the nature of the beast. No matter who you work for.
     
  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    I got the impression the OP understands this but is not able to edit other times like On Duty

    I would not work for a company where the driver could not make basic edits to non-driving status lines. I bet the person in the office who can, is pulling their hair out dealing with that crap decision.
     
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  6. G13Tomcat

    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    Unless you use white out. Like me. ;)
     
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  7. White Dog

    White Dog Road Train Member

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    "I myself forgot the computer".
    The e-log will switch you from 'driving' to 'on-duty' on it's own (after a short amount of time) when you stop the truck and pull the break. You can't blame it on a "glitch" driver...it is on you. If you were on paper...you can't "forget" to draw the line up or down each time you change duty status---you're required to remember it, and DO it.
     
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  8. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    I'm guessing either this company hadn't been on their elogs system very long.

    Regardless, you should be able to edit any on duty times as possible
     
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  9. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    All you have do is learn a new way of logging. Just like the rest of use, we all have learn to change driving status when we park. I had a 48 minute post trip inspection. I did not bother calling safety to change it. It not like that 48 minute lost makes and big deal.

    It's just learning new habits. When I first got ELD I would let just start driving after my 30 minute break because the it put you on driving automatically. Until I forgot to make sure I had 30 minutes off one day and logged myself a violation. Now I make sure I do it manually because if I'm short a couple minutes the ELD give you a warning that I have not completed my 30 minute break. So it just learning new habits.
     
  10. bavarian

    bavarian Heavy Load Member

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    I would call them for every minute until they get tired of the calls and fix the system to allow it. Even when the gain isn't really needed and complain about this glitch every time.
    Yes, every driver is supposed to change his/her duty status him/herself. But there are occasions where the mighty machine doesn't take change.
    The other week a was off for two days and when I came back to the truck I was "working" all the time.
     
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  11. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    Who can edit an electronic logging device (ELD) record?

    Both the driver and authorized carrier staff can make limited edits to an ELD record to correct mistakes or add missing information. All edits must include a note (annotation) to explain the reason for the edit. In addition, the driver must confirm (certify) that any carrier edit is accurate, and resubmit the records. If the driver chooses not to re-certify RODs, this is also reflected in the ELD record. The ELD must keep the original, unedited record, along with the edits. Example: a carrier edits a record to switch a period of time from “off-duty” to “on-duty not driving”, with a note that explains “Driver logged training time incorrectly as off-duty”. The edit and annotation are sent to the driver to verify. The edit is not accepted until the driver confirms it and resubmits the RODS.

    Are drivers allowed to edit their records of duty status (RODS) using the electronic logging device (ELD) back office support systems once they leave the commercial motor vehicle (CMV)?

    Yes. Drivers may edit their RODS using ELD back office support systems. While these edits or corrections are allowed to ensure an accurate record of the driver’s duty status, the electronic record must retain what was originally recorded, as well as the date, time, and identity of the individual entering the corrections or edits.
     
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