No. You're not understanding me. I can name the dimensions (and optional dimensions) of any Take3 or Kaufman trailer. I'm autistic.
My question was answered by kozakvod. The load cannot stick out past your trailers width. That's the answer. So if I want to pull a dually on my trailer, it needs to be AT LEAST 96in wide. Because duallies (every dimension I have found from 2011 forward) says the outer measures width of the rear dual tires is 96" with some being less. Granted, there will be guys who add spacers, liftkits, wider wheels, etc. I want to be able to haul a factory standard 350 dually series. So I conclude, the trailer needs to be AT LEAST 96" wide. I'm talking with the fabricator now. He is going to make it 98". A little wiggle room for safety.
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Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by The3SomeTrailer, Mar 7, 2019.
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Here is what I found. If I run a F250 (10,000 GVWR) which has a 16,900 lb max-Gooseneck-towing-capacity, I can get a trailer with a GVWR up to 15,999 lbs and not need a CDL, nor any of the high costs associated with it. Or headaches. And being that i will only run in GA, I can avoid interstate requirements.
So here is what I did. I just bought a 2016 Turbodiesel F250 Longbed 4x2 with 21,000miles, clean carfax, inspected, beautiful. All the bells and whistles, and I basically stole it for $30k from a wholesaler I work with for almost 5 years.
Next, I contacted a fabricator who builds all types of trailers. I sent him the designs for the Kaufman 35' wedge ($6,800 base model with 8 week buildtime), as well as the Take 3 Ultralight 48' ($14,000 base model with 12 week build time) which have 2,600 lbs and 4,800 lbs curb weight, respectively. Together, we designed a hybrid of the two trailers, minimizing unnecessary weight such as lockable toolboxes, etc) and included 9' aluminum ramps to allow for reduced weight and low clearance. His buildtime is 2 weeks and will include DOT compliance (ie, lighting, etc).
The finished product is a 42ft wedge with a slight angle over the gooseneck. We are still deciding on whether to include flipouts up top, but either way, it will be able to fit (2) full sized crew-cab pickups, which was my goal. And its weight? 4,250 lbs empty...with a GVWR of 15,500 lbs. And the cost? You wouldn't believe me if I told you. I told him after 6 months, if it hauls well, we will be expanding with 2 more trucks and placing orders for 2 more.KANSAS TRANSIT Thanks this. -
I’m with Kansas on thos one. Why not just use a 102” wide trailer? You’re truly making this much more complicated than it needs to be.Grumppy Thanks this. -
And we decided on 98" width anyway...so.... -
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Thx for the detailed explanation, now I see what you you are up to. Secondly, I can FULLY understand thinking out of the box and having just enough equipment for the job, as I tend to lean the same way but at the 54,000 threshold.
To be honest you are far from the first that has gone to great lengths to skirt the CDL, I'm not going to judge you on that, it's your decision, I just HOPE that you aren't doing it so you can further undercut rates, it's getting a bit ridiculous out there in some markets.
The only note I will add is that I HOPE, and I can't stress that enough, that you are taking the bed off the truck and using a true low frame mount 5th wheel plate, there are FAR too many OVER the box type wedges out there that are winding up on their sides, and MOST of the time it is because of a larger heavier vehicle on the trailer, the center of gravity is just too #### high!!!!!!!
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2 fullsize crew cab pickups will weight 6,500-8,000 lbs. each, or more, which will put you over your trailers 15,500 GVWR and put you into CDL territory
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There is always great debate and misunderstanding about what constitutes CDL and what doesn’t. But here’s the thing.
The combination GVWR of truck and trailer CANNOT exceed 26,001. If you’re over that amount you need a CDL.
The curb weight of the trucks has ZERO to do with CDL. The axle weight ratings dictate how much you can pile on them legally. You add the actual weight of the trailer plus the weight of the vehicle(s) and if that total weight is over the combined axle weight ratings you’re illegal. But that has nothing to do with whether or not a CDL is required.KANSAS TRANSIT Thanks this. -
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