Paccar engine

Hard to tell, as I understand it there are collectors over there like terma so it could get a good price but since you can't get parts for them there it may make nothing , however that daf is only 6 years old and dealers and parts are plentiful here and like all dafs after a short life it's good for nothing only scrap, those pacaar engines really are crap! There's no denying it, I owned 2 myself and they nearly broke me!

 

I have a few on about 700 000km now.
Only doing about 8 000km per month so still quite some time , but I will let you know.
No issues yet.
Parts here are a pain but some parts dealers starting to stock them.
On auction they are about half of what a Scania goes for.
I make more with 2 of them than with one Scania.
I could just be lucky , keep hoping you are wrong.

 

And I hope you stay lucky , it is also a good point you make about getting 2 for the price of one that of course makes good business sense but they are as expensive as a scania when new so if it's a new purchase the depreciation is gonna hurt!

 

I just cant justify buying a new DAF when I can get such a good deal (33%) on a 3 year 350000km unit.
I try to stick to Euro3 but battling to get them now.
Scanias are all Euro 4 & 5.
I'm not sure how Paccar engine does at Euro 4&5.

 

I'm told they're even worse , yup you are right to be buying daf 2nd hand, the depreciation is too crazy on new ones, you can get scania euro 3 here but they make big money, you would buy a Volvo at half the cost, even a 1995 143 will make €12,000 - €20,000, a decent 4 series will set you back €14,000 - €25,000, r series start at €24,000 upwards, these are v8 prices,

 

The problems I am seeing with the MX engine is far more serious than that. There are several coming through our workshop which are consuming oil at an alarming rate. Seemingly,they have a problem with carbon build up at the top of the cylinders,which leads to this problem???? I also know of a few that dropped valves and the engines did extensive damage as a result.....and Paccar will try every excuse going not to honour the warranty

 

daf do produce a euro 111 emmission MX engine for countries such as China and India.
All european engines were either euro4 and now euro 5

 

The local daf agent told me and I quote " the warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on". That's some attitude! Ended up in a non daf garage paying for labour myself but eventually they did agree to give me parts

 

The MX engine has suffered from carbon build up being dragged down edge of liner and causing excessive oil consumption. If oil consumption test carried out with Paccar dealer and authorised by manufacturer piston liner kit is supplied under warranty, i work at a DAF dealer and have done many tests and piston/liner kits like this. Some early engines drop valves due to valve springs failing, this is also repaired under warranty. Engine has had a lot of problems, but every dealer of other makes tell me they have all got some problems of there own, Mercedes camshafts, Volvo engines etc etc

 

I'm putting 5 Kenworth T-660's into service the first week of December. They all have the 455 hp MX engines. I'll see first hand how well they perform and I certainly hope they do better than what I've read here. My decision to buy them was based on information that I gained from a close friend that is a service manager at a major dealer. He monitors nationwide breakdown reports from large fleets such as Prime and TransAm and he isn't seeing many engine problems with the MX. Most of the problems have been with sensors in the after treatment and this is built by Cummins. Supposedly the sensors have been upgraded and the problems aren't as common with todays system.
I talked to several fleet service managers about the fuel economy of the MX and was told that they are seeing 7 plus mpg. Of course weight and terrain will impact mileage but the most important factor is specing the truck right and training the driver to operate it correctly. I went to the Kenworth factory in Chillocothe, OH and talked to the MX engine trainer. This engine should never operate above 1450 rpms for maximum fuel efficiently according to him.
I'll either be very happy or extremely mad soon. Time will tell.....