Paccar Overhaul

Have a blown head gasket(possibly). Called dealer to get overhaul kit and was told they are not available for 2017 year engine. They stop at 2016. They do have head gasket kit but seems kind of odd they stop at 2016. Crate engine is 36,000 plus 9400 core charge and 750 installation kit. Just seems crazy to me.

 

These are quotes on just parts from
2 different dealers. Labor would be on top of these prices. Sounds like I can buy individual parts depending on what’s bad on the inside but I was hoping to just get a full overhaul kit that would be a little cheaper. I guess we will see when they get it opened up.

 

At this point, for that kinda quote you could probably have a 3406E/ c15 swap done and probably be money ahead. Sorry to hear that on the Paccar prices. Everything is getting crazy.

 

Nope swap is $75,000ish. Im saving to do it and its 56K for the engine (6nz), 10K for the mounts, harnesses adapters and so on, and around 10k in labor amd this is assumeing your transmission is an 1850 torque model already. A lot of paccars were paired to 1650 rated transmissions and a 6nz would likely break something if your not johnny on the spot 100% of the time.

As for the rest.....yup those prices are inline with what i was told for JUST the motor and ignoreing emissions stuff. So doesnt suprise me at all. An inframe is 40k and a out of frame is 52K according to 4 diffrent dealers.

 

Shop around online. There is no reason to be paying 40k for an overhaul kit.. Even with a brand new head... Breakaway from the dealers tit when it comes to buying parts

 

Davie4 nough said. But no serioisly a lot of that stuff can ONLY be adjusted via computer and jpro and what not dont cut it. Its basically john deer on steroids. Hell even the base rebuild kit is around $14K for the very basic ones. Once you start getting into out of frame overhaul kits it gets stupidly expensive. Mostly because of the compressed graphite block. It takes a LOT of extra steps to rebuild. To the point its just cheaper to replace it in many cases. Additionally paccars tend to round the cam and cranks over time and wear the lobes down so much a lot of that needs full replacment.

Your correct there is no REASON for it to cost that much. But well....paccar premium theu got you by the electronic shorthairs and they know it

 

There is no overhaul “kit “ available means that everything must be ordered individual. The kit number has not been assembled yet.

Parts availability is still crazy and hit and miss. I have a customer waiting on a EPA 10 overhaul kit for over 2 months and it’s not supposed to hit until next year.

Rebuilding an 17’ in a 680 now.

 

A close friend just did one earlier in the year. It was around $47000 out the door to do a 2WS into a 2016 T660 that originally had a MX13. Where are you getting your prices quoted at?
We also overhauled a 6NZ in July. Inframe, Cat parts, counterbores cut. Less than 30k. $40,000 is way high for a normal inframe.

 

I'm not sure he actually knows what the difference in a 1650 torque and an 1850 torque is. Bearings, shafts, case, bolts, basically everything is identical. Gear hardness of several gears is the only real difference. It's more of a selling point than it is anything.

 

Pete directly, second quote was from cat directly. Dont have the paper printout from pete handy but i do have the cat one here sans personal info. This cat quote is 3 weekd old. I also have one from kustom trucks and a 3rd from an indy and all are within about 5k of each other. You want truely agregious you should see what pete wanted for an isx swap.




Keep in mind this is JUST for the engine if you start adding on everything else for a conversion the price gets quite crazy.





First of all @HoundDog7 #### you muchly and kindly learn to read, not doing so makes you look like an idiot. I never once said you NEED a 1850 transmission. I stated many paccars were mated to a 1650 and that a direct cat drop in CAN break things.

Second yes i actully DO happen to know on the torque. You can set an engine to a lower torque as you can see in the above quote i have and use a 1650 rated drivetrain just fine. However if you want the full power without any risks you will in many cases need to upgrade as its quite easy to snap the in many cases much lighter parts used on many of these 1650 rated transmissions and drivetrains. Many parts in MY linkage are rated lower then even that being an old fleet truck and have had to be swaped out. When i first got it the truck was set to 1400 torque and the driveshaft was only rated for 1500. When i uprated it i did not know that and sheered my Ujoints as an example. You CAN drive a truck like that if your light on the foot sure. However if you screw up or put someone who is not light on the foot in the truck welp kersnap. Dont belive me? Take a look at the dozens of posts you can search up on this very forum. So before you run your yap perhaps YOU need to learn? Then again ive seen some of the nonsense you spout so im unsuprised.