If a company pays you for a post trip, are they not required to pay you for a pre-trip? The company I work for says i have to give them the first hour??? They were paying the pre-trip(as a delay) up until a month ago and verbally told me they no longer do that, So I have to hook, pre-trip, fuel, and not get paid? Just wondering if anyone has an answer.
pre and post trip pay
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jfarrar24, Apr 1, 2012.
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Well I think the short answer is...................no they dont "have to".
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Most carriers don't pay for pre trip or post trip inspections. If you get paid for one then you are way ahead of what most carriers offer. It is up to each carrier to set their own policies. Most carriers pay drivers mileage or a percentage of the load rate. If you want to be paid for fueling your truck or doing inspections then you need to find a local job that pays hourly.
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We get paid for miles driven.
That does not include pre or post trips, fueling, breaks, scaling, etc.
Deal with it.DrtyDiesel, Wargames, Typhoid36 and 4 others Thank this. -
Uhm are you paid hourly by chance? Your phrasing of "giving them the first hour. If you are hourly then no I would say it should be paid depending on your states labor laws.
If you are paid mileage or percentage then no they would not be required.Wargames, Rollover the Original and CondoCruiser Thank this. -
Then do not show up for work till your time to do so.
Not that many union jobs pay for all of this stuff, I know, I had a union job.
take your 15 minute pre/post trip inspections and take no more than 15 minutes to fuel, as for drop and hook, take no more than 15 minutes there as well.
After nearly 25 years now, I know of what I speak, takes me no more to do any of the above. When you know your job, you can work faster and get it done.
"give the first hour", usually meant once you bumped the dock, in order to be paid delay times, or start getting paid by the hour. -
we get paid 27 mins for pretrip and 27 mins for post trip...
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If you get paid hourly and they "take" the first hour, I'd be on the phone to the state labor board or the Federal office!
It's the same thing working for a fast food joint.
My mentally handicapped son used to work for Popeyes here in town before they went under, but for a while I or his mother would drive by the store and see him sitting in the front.
We asked him why and he said that he was told to wait until they "had something for him to do!"
I called the Federal Office of Labor or whoever it was (this was back in about 2004) and the lady went insane! She gave me a few links to print out and told me that it's illegal to schedule any hourly paid employee into work and then NOT pay them. If you go in and they say it's free then call the state as they scheduled you to come in to work. NOW they CAN later in the day take you off the clock and job due to no business but NOT at the beginning of the day. BUT, they can NOT get you to perform ANY operations that relate to "work!"
BUT (yeah I use them a lot) A PTI no matter how you call it pre or post,
IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE SAFE OPERATION OF A CMV!
It IS part of your job to insure that the truck is in compliance of all FMCSA rules! You even have to fill out that information on a form don't you?
SO, this moron you work for is getting an hour out of you for free? Why an hour? Oh fueling the truck? The same truck this pin head is living off of? Yeah us paid by the mile guys get bent like this but this moron is really pushing the envelope to get his arse sued by an hourly employee!
I'd video you doing your job and then call the Gooberment and put this BFI out of work!
Free work?
I give NO ONE free work! I work I get paid and well! I do NOT work for free and that's exactly what you are doing!Mommas_money_maker Thanks this. -
What next you want paid for unlocking your truck, or waiting for the heater or a/c to do its deal? I've never expected payment for opening doors, chocking wheels, sliding tandems, stacking pallets, or installing load locks. My company pays to sweep out trailers, but I've never turned in a ticket for it, it's part of my job and that's the way I've always been. You all ought to haul livestock awhile, do you think they get paid for loading or unloading? If your company can't make money then they will close, then you have no job. Grow up and try to be the type American that built this country.
D.Tibbitt, Licensed to kill and DrtyDiesel Thank this. -
The OP needs a rest. Maybe a doobee even.
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