Pyramid versus stripped

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  1. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    Question. I have been running flatbed for a minute now, and wanted some input from other drivers. I picked up some 5 1/2" casing. 96 wide 48 foot trailer. The bedded layer was 16 joints bolster to bolster. Next layer 15, the next 14. The remainder was 8 joints. The loader operator insisted the top stripped. He said pyramidding it wouldn't make it a true pyramid, something about straps not touching all the pipe. Now I looked at it and the 8 on top would center perfectly on the 14 joints. But not to start an argument, I threw boards on top and secured load. Every strap I threw (11 plus belly straps) did touch all the pipe, but in the past when I took a fully pyramidded load, no boards other than those on the deck, all straps were touching pipe. I have never had an issue with DOT at scale houses either. So, opinions, suggestions, answers are greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Are you able to take a picture?

    I cannot open my mouth without examining your load and it's securement. One part of me might confirm I am a idiot and another part says something should improve somewhere.

    With that said, pipe needs strap to touch and hold them.

    Sometimes Ive hauled pipe where it's stacked on long wood between layers of them so that the strapping can be run as appropriate.

    The only pipe I really paid attention to (I pay attention to everything on that deck, whatever the load might be.) but pipes in particular if are made of iron bother me a little bit. Those are pretty brittle believe it or not.

    That is about all i can toss into the ring here without examining your load and it's securement.
     
  4. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    I got unloaded already, but I just wanted to make sure I haven't been doing anything wrong. Like I said though, never had DOT issues with the way I secure the load.
     
  5. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    Pictures? I'm not sure what you mean by stripped.

    Seems like you were trying to load it all without any dunnage between layers?
     
  6. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    The 45 joints on bottom were pyramidded-16,15,14. The remaining 8 were placed on the dunnage they wanted me to put on top of the 45. I should have taken a picture but didn't think to. So you have a pyramid inn bottom with 8 joints stripped on top if that makes sense.
     
  7. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    The loader dosn't know if you would strap directly below the top layer of 8 and was just covering his butt. Which is better than most. :)

    There must be a scale nearby.
     
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  8. Crude Truckin'

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    I've hauled casing before, and I've had to unload it (I used to work on a drilling rig), and to me, the only way to haul it is to put dunnage and straps on each layer. That's the most secure way, and it's WAY easier and faster to unload.
     
  9. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    Actually no scale. We loaded at a small pipe yard about 40 miles from our yard. When we delivered, it was about 35 miles to the rig no stations on route.
     
  10. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    Every one of the loads out of our yard are stripped(the exception being the line pipe, easier to string it on the right of way) I have heard debate over which is safer to haul, my personal take is if you have adequate securement and do your load checks, you won't have load issues. Then is just a matter of getting it from A to B safely.
     
  11. ChaoSS

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    If he's stacking them in a pyramid with no dunnage in between layers then he's not throwing any straps between those layers. The loader was absolutely correct, although I'd have wanted dunnage between all layers anyway.

    It's not even about the scales, loading that last layer on top without straps under it is not safe, it leaves some of the pieces on the top of your pyramid unsecured.
     
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