Pyramid versus stripped

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  1. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Is there a scale North of them running up to someplace like ND?
     
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  3. jimjam38

    jimjam38 Medium Load Member

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    Ok that makes more sense. I see what you are saying. They insisted on loading the last 8 on boards even though a pyramid could have been achieved without stripping those last 8. One of the hands in the yard stated a couple of their drivers got tickets for pyramidding an entire load, no boards, which makes me think that loader improperly set the top joints down and it wasn't a true pyramid.
     
  4. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    So you would want to stripe the whole thing? As would I.

    But it was a partial pyramid and the loader was wanting them to stripe the top so there would be straps under the top layer.
     
  5. Espressolane

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    Why the shipper wanted the last row on dunnage. Putting the dunnage across the last wide layer is considered part of securement, it is down force clamping and touches all the pieces across that layer.

    Personally, on a short or partial load like this, I am not a fan of loading pyramid. Layered unloads alot faster and less potential trailer damage.

    3 layers at 15 pieces, with the last a 8 using 4X4 dunnage would have only been 5 feet tall.

    While it is true that on a pyramid load, the straps pass over the pieces down the sides as it heads for the trailer, the problem here is, it is not providing any clamping force on the sides. All clamping force is at the top, where the straps pass over. If the load has to be pyramid, then I will use 3 or 4 chokes to keep things tight.
     
  6. ChaoSS

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    I never haul pipe that doesn't have boards between layers. This allows each layer to be secured individually.

    When you pyramid pipe, you need to secure the bottom layer from moving out. I don't trust pipe stakes for that, so unless it's wide enough for the straps to do the job it's not good. If you have a layer that isn't completely covered by the next layer and doesn't have straps flat over it then some if those pieces can move up, and the layer can be squeezed in wards, causing pieces to be loose.

    Secure each layer individually and have boards on between layers, it's safer.
     
  7. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    Is there some reason you think I need to be told that from my previous responses? Someone that dosn't even know what striping is? Just go ahead and try to baffle me with BS because you don't know what your talking about.

    Just wait for the OP to post pictures.
     
  8. ChaoSS

    ChaoSS Road Train Member

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    I was just trying to clarify what I had said earlier. Wasn't trying to baffle anyone with anything. Not sure where your hostility is coming from, but you might want to find a woman to help with that stress.
     
  9. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    I don't know where it came from either. Must be that time of the month.
     
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  10. beastr123

    beastr123 Road Train Member

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    the 8 will center but leave 3 on each side and the second one in on each side will not have any downward pressure but will have side (lateral) pressure and WILL pop up and loosen all the tiedowns.
    This may not happen on every load but will on many especially on a rough road.
    stripping the top will prevent pop up pipe as long as the strips cover ALL the pipe on the next layer down
    chaos is right though an all stripped load is quicker to unload but takes much more dunnage and labor to load.
     
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