Qualcomm performance requirement

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Vurtle, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. Vurtle

    Vurtle Light Load Member

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    Just checking here to see if this cop is accurate or misguided in his inspection. This cop is a county based commercial inspector. We pass through this county on a regular basis hauling sand. The situation is that the cop checks the qualcomm for the e logs and then he checks the performance portion of the qualcomm. If the qualcomm does not show rpm when running and no rpm when off, he writes the driver a ticket for the qualcomm not being plugged into the truck ecm. I cannot find any reg stating that an e-log must show engine data. The only things I can find that are required is hours of service. Is this cop making up laws. I am in the great state of Texas.
    As a mechanic and a driver, I do not like the ecm data monitor of the qualcomms. I have seen on several occasions where the qualcomm screws with the ECM and causes several different problems. Volvos seem to be the most affected by this. As soon as the ecm is unplugged from the qualcomm, all is well again. The qualcomms that are not monitoring ecm data still work in all other functions. I can see where a fleet may want to monitor it's vehicles data, but for owner ops it is not needed in most circumstances.
    I am looking for replies where actual regulations support what this cop is requiring or confirmation that there is no reg for data monitor. Opinions are great, but it is hard to argue opinion with LEO.
     
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  3. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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  4. Vurtle

    Vurtle Light Load Member

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    The company we are contracted to requires a qualcomm in the truck. They do not require the ecm data though. I actually prefer to use keep trucking log app. Great app and combines the benefits of paper and e log. Paper log and keep trucking app do not monitor ecm data and I would be willing to bet that cop would not even expect data info then. I am not sure where he is coming up with the idea for the data monitor requirement for the qualcomm.
     
  5. 2Girls_1Truck

    2Girls_1Truck Medium Load Member

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    If the truck is hooked up to the ecm, you aren't required to furnish a paper copy of the logs since the drive time can't be edited or changed. There is a feature that allows you to fax the officers car/scale house.

    If it's not connected to the ecm, it's the same as running an elog app on your phone or computer and you are required to provide a paper copy if asked. They are not required to accept a fax and you can be fined for not having any means to print your logs.
     
    double yellow Thanks this.
  6. CaptainDaveG

    CaptainDaveG Road Train Member

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    Why not just hook it up...?

    Be Safe Out There

    Captain Dave
     
  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Correct.

    The cop can write you up for not complying with the AOBRD requirements specified in § 395.15

    E-logs are still legal, but without the AOBRD component section 98(3) says you must be able to provide paper copies of your log if asked.
     
  8. Vurtle

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    Why not just hook it up? The answer is because of the problems we have seen.

    I just read all of the 395.15 requirements and no where does it say ecm data is required. Still not sure how the inspector could ticket me when the requirement is not there.
     
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  9. double yellow

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    The support systems must also provide information concerning on-board system sensor failures and identification of edited data. Such support systems should meet the information interchange requirements of the American National Standard Code for Information Interchange (ANSCII) (EIARS-232/CCITT V.24 port (National Bureau of Standards “Code for Information Interchange,” FIPS PUB 1-1)).


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    (3) The automatic on-board recording device and associated support systems are, to the maximum extent practicable, tamperproof and do not permit altering of the information collected concerning the driver's hours of service;
     
  10. Vurtle

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    The onboard system is the qualcomm and sensor failure is for the qualcomm errors. Not vehicle sensor failures. Our qualcomms do not show vehicle sensor failure even when installed properly.
     
  11. Blackshack46

    Blackshack46 Road Train Member


    Wait! What?
     
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