Question about HOS violation

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  1. TruckerGonnaBe

    TruckerGonnaBe Light Load Member

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    I have a friend who is currently on a load. Her delivery time is it 4 a.m. She will run out of hours at the receiver at 4:30 a.m. In Clackamas Oregon. Could she get into trouble by driving after her delivery is done to find a place to park for her 10? With all the bad information we've been given we both want to make sure that she will be okay before she takes off.
     
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  3. ArmyGuy

    ArmyGuy Heavy Load Member

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    Yes she could, i personally would still deliver the load.
     
  4. Balakov100

    Balakov100 Road Train Member

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    Why will she be out of hours at 430?
    '14'?
    Elogs?
    Maybe she can stay at the Consignee.
    If they make her leave it's still going to be a violation.
    I would just put a note in the QC or whatever system they use, and or send a message to Safety, Customer made me leave.
    Then go to closest place.
     
  5. TruckingSurveyor

    TruckingSurveyor Light Load Member

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    Yes, she will be out of hours, doesn't matter the reason why, it will be a violation of the HOS if she moves before the required 10 hours off duty. There are exceptions, but as described I don't believe she will be legally able to move. Can she take a 10 hour break at the receiver?

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/part/395
     
  6. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    In this situation I have been told to use off duty pc to get off property since no parking. Im mt and not furthering next load so im allowed, according to company,
     
  7. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    I heard Dave Nemo ask FMCSA people about this. They just basically shrugged their shoulders and said. "Yup, that's a problem."
    Translation -- you're screwed. Government regulations are perfect, they don't understand a world where people work beyond 9-5, Monday to Friday, and everyone goes home at night. Plus government employees cannot be held responsible for their actions, but the rest of us sure as heck can be. So if one of them was in the same situation, they would deliver the load, then if they were out of hours they would call a tow truck to take them to the nearest truck stop and send the taxpayers the bill.
     
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  8. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Your "friend" will be violating HOS rules if "she" drives while out of hours. How is this even a question? I will say that your "friend" will only be breaking the law if caught!
     
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  9. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

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    No driving after 14 hours on duty....for any reason, ever ..lol
     
  10. FatDaddy

    FatDaddy Road Train Member

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    Short answer....yes

    What to do about it? Well, find out if she can stay on site, if no, find out if she can sleep out on the road by the shipper, if no....call your safety department and advise them of the situation...have it documented and do what they say.....will that cover you should she fall asleep and have an accident?? well honestly.....I have no idea....but probably no.
     
  11. TruckerGonnaBe

    TruckerGonnaBe Light Load Member

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    She has already talked to the consignee's and she is not allowed to stay on the property after she is finished unloading.

    I told her to talk to dispatch and let them know what was going on. When she did they yelled at her for being late and then she explained that it was bad weather bad truck and repair work that made her late and they are rescheduling the appointment.

    neither one of us wants to get in trouble whether it be a ticket or going to jail which is why I wanted to make sure before I told her. She is going to do a 10 hour break and then go for her delivery when they have the appointment rescheduled in the morning.

    thank you I appreciate the help :)
     
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