Really need help and advice.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Beethoven, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    I'm sure things may have changed, but when I was at admiral merchant, I did just fine as long as I stayed in there strong areas. If I took a load to where they didn't have a very big presence, I was on my own to find my own load back. And unless you got some strong contacts, that return load will be what you can find off the public broker boards like internet truckstop. and AM is still getting a their cut of the pie. The only thing you save is the agent percentage. so cheap load board broker freight minus 20 percent or so to the carrier, leaves not much for the truck.

    Not saying AM is bad, they aren't, but just like every company, you need to learn how to work their system if you want to succeed.
     
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  3. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    I'm not the kind of guy who digs or prys into other peoples private business. They see my wife and I together and some people are friendlier than others and just like to talk.

    Being a cynical person,.. I take in and scrutinize everything. I believe maybe half of what folks say,.. the rest I attribute to bragging, competition, or just plain BS.

    As I stated,.. I've only been an O/O for a year now. I started with the mindset that I would do everything in cash. The less I financed or made payments on the better. I try not to finance anything that I cant pay off in 30 days. Though some things and situations will eventually require a bit more risk on my part. Dont get me wrong,.. I would love a nice new 389 Glider, chromed out, chicken lights, custom pin striping,.. man that old school look takes me back. But I am very much a realist. Function over form has served me well. As long as its reliable and affordable,.. I'm going to make money with it. I dont mind what it looks like. People can snub me and snicker all they want/ My set up is paid for,.. I can come and go where I want. I dont owe anyone. My bills are paid. I have money in the bank. I can take off or lose a month and other than going stir crazy,.. I'm just fine.

    I agree,.. I dont know enough or all the ins and outs of this business. I am learning every day. I am a do'er. If I had it all figured out, I'm the kind of guy who would be at home dispatching a fleet of trucks instead of leased on to someone else busting my balls to stay ahead of the curve so I can survive what ever comes my way.

    OTR trucking is a lifestyle more than it is a style of career or just a job. Its tough on everyone in the family. It will find the strengths and weakness in a family. It will bring some closer together,.. and others it will tear them apart.

    People come here on TTR almost everyday asking pretty much the same questions. How much do O/O's make? You see guys posting up how easy it is and all the big numbers being thrown out there. Rookies see that and develop dreams of grandeur. The real truths to the question is,.. "How hard are you willing to work?", "How much are you willing to sacrifice in order to succeed?".

    Hurst
     
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  4. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    In the first 2 years that I owned my truck I made more than a few mistakes. What saved me was pretty much sheer stubborness and my willingness to bust my butt to keep going forward.

    Reading your posts you seem to be that way also and will do what it takes to keep going and provide for your family. I'm not going to sit here and say that you should be away from your family more but grabbing a nice long load on a Friday that delivers on a Monday once or twice a month would be a nice boost to your bank account.

    Sometimes the easiest money to make is when nobody else wants to work.
     
  5. Beethoven

    Beethoven Light Load Member

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    Good news, Admiral Merchants has approved me, I am very hopeful about them. I also heard back from F2F. They are working on my pprwk now. so still waiting but really hopeful about them!!!
    I will keep you all updated!!

    I would also like to say to all of you that I really appreciate your responses. They have been extremely helpful and nothing was offensive. I am going to get my butt back out there and make this work.
    Thanks again. I will let you all know what happens.
     
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  6. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Home time is a product of where you live, what trailer you pull, and how well you pay attention to your lanes. I get home quiet often. Every weekend I go home. I work hard to get rates that support it. I find that loads running 300-400 miles work best to my needs as far as getting profitable rates and getting home often. Sometimes I do shorter hauls and sometimes longer but 350 would be typical.

    I pull dry van and just happen to be lucky enough to live in a state with a good balance of consumption and production of dry van freight. There are major lanes from west to east and north to south that all seem to converge right thru TN. Lots of freight going in all directions tends to route thru here. That is also to my benefit. I strive to always keep the truck empty and available for last minute lucrative weekend freight around the house (hasn't been any of that in ages!) which can be a job but probably 90 percent of my weekends that truck is parked at home empty. Failing that I am either on a load that picked up locally Friday delivering somewhere or sometimes routed thru the house for a weekend.

    Many times I will get thru the house in the middle of the week. That's what happened Tuesday and Wednesday this week. I like to go out and back from TN. The majority of the time I make my best money on my outbounds but anymore I sometimes have to take calculated risks on lower paying loads leaving TN then work back. Anyone who lives in this area pulling a flat or dry van should have no problem getting home often and making good money doing it. In fact I go so far as to say anyone in the southeast or Midwest should be able to do the same thing without too much trouble.

    Now if you are working at a company who is weak on freight around your home area you might as well forget it. Or if you live in Denver, CO or Florida, maybe even some other areas out west it is probably not going to happen. You live in Cincinatti. It ought to be a relative cakewalk.

    As a company driver what have you been doing for years? Mindlessly delivering loads never recalling any details about areas you deliver and pickup at? I think it helps if one has a "photographic" memory and can recall the most mundane details about freight they've hauled over the years. I worked for 11 years a southeast regional company as an employee and forced dispatched o/o. I have lost count of the loads I have hauled as a driver booking spot market freight off loadboards that were some of the exact same customers they used for TN outbounds and inbounds. I have even found some good ones they don't know about or never had access to.

    You have to pay attention and you have to learn thru trial and error as you go. No rich uncle's here, no easy street, I earned it all the hard way on my own and debt free, took years to get here and really feel as though I am just getting in the swing of things and doing ok. It took me a few months to figure out my routines but figure some out I did. - and they do evolve. I would never make it out here if I had to live in a truck for weeks on end. I would sell the truck. Good luck whatever path you follow.
     
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  7. whoopNride

    whoopNride Road Train Member

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    Well said Rollin Coal,

    I was thinking the same thing, living in Cincy, he should be able to find plenty of flatbed work in the Midwest to get home regular. Maybe just a matter of getting hooked up with the right company. Or possibly getting his Own Authority. I am with you, I have done this many years, 28 to be exact, and made a very good living . Never been away from home over 7 days, never seen any reason to. Im not knocking the guys that do, by any means. Just trying to let Beethoven know, you can make a good living at this without staying on the road for weeks, or months.
     
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  8. Beethoven

    Beethoven Light Load Member

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    That is one thing i am guilty of thinking. The longer you stay out and try to run the more money i thought i would make.. But it happened more than once that it didn't work out that way. I don't know if it was the lanes I was in which was midwest and south, or if it was the freight that the company had (or didn't have i guess).

    I always thought that being on the 75 corridor meant i would have no problem getting freight and for the most part I could get freight out but almost nothing woulb come back to Cincinnati I would always wind up deadheading at least 100 miles from indy or lexington. I do'nt know if that is the norm with most others but it seems a little weird to me.

    I know when i was doing containers the rule of thumb was don't go over 100 miles out. but i don't think that would work with flatbed. I just have to figure this out.
     
  9. Beethoven

    Beethoven Light Load Member

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    That's exactly what I am saying!!
     
  10. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Me too, Hurst.
     
  11. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    I have a great reply but now I'm worried that it's not PC enough. Heck, I even thought humor and sarcasm were a big part of the fun in here. I guess I'm a sick man.
     
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  12. Beethoven

    Beethoven Light Load Member

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    There is a time and place for that. In my situation, this is not the time or place. Everyone has been very respectful and helpful thus far. I have received a lot of constructive criticism and great advice. It's nice to know that real truckers are still out here and willing to help a guy out.
     
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