sleeper requirements

X1 has so many people blocked he rarely reads the same thread as anyone else ..

 

Yup. Don't log what you don't have. Simple enough.

 

Yes you have to comply.

There are companies that will take out the side door windows and put in a sleeper.

Logging off duty may be a problem with a officer who asks for motel receipts, the stats's don't have to follow the fmcsa regs.

 

I have never been asked for a motel receipt in over 34 years of driving .
Seriously carry one of those small tents that are easy to put up, a small air mattress, and a sleeping bag.
If someone asks, you were sleeping peacefully in your tent.
They cannot prove that you weren't.

 

Neither have I OR have I seen a bonafide CONFIRMED case where a DOT officer has asked for one. Further, I am still trying to find where this hotel rule intrastate or interstate is posted. If someone would be so kind as to post a link I would be greatly obliged!

 

Mine was back in 08-09, my hood got hit so I was in our spare truck at the time. I was down by Medford going to White City OR to load and got pulled over. I was in a daycab out of MT and was in SW Oregon, and he asked to see motel receipts for the trip.

Now since they’ve changed the way they worded the off duty stuff, making it ok to be off duty in the cab, the receipt requirement has no basis because it doesn’t matter where you were off duty. That’s why the OP can log off duty and sleep in his back seat.

 

I am not trying to be obnoxious or argue for the sake of making an argument out of what is really a none issue to me. I also believe you. I have heard other drivers report much the same. My point is where is the regulatory requirement the DOT officers have to back up the said request. To the best of my knowledge, a driver is/was only required to show their documents like permits, fuel stickers, logbooks for OTR, medical card and CDLto a DOT officer upon request. I have never read or even come across a rule that required a driver to keep other records on them. This was my primary point.

When I was doing Recovery (repossessing) driving work I mailed in my paperwork as soon as I got it finished, this included my hotel receipts and logs. If a DOT cop were to have asked me for a hotel receipt I would not have had them to show. Now, in my case would a DOT officer now write a citation? If so what specific rule did I violate? For a DOT cop to ask for a specific document at the roadside and then take action later would require a rule that states the specific obligation I as a driver is under to provide it.

I hope my point is getting across because I can't explain it better.

 

How were the off duty and supporting document regs worded back then? I can’t recall off the top of my head. I suppose I could’ve said it was none of his business but my goal is always to get back rolling as quick as I can. I was empty, he checked my logs and lights and turned me loose. My guess is he was looking to make sure my fuel matched, my scale crossings matched, and I was off duty in the town I said I was and that I hadn’t driven straight from UT to OR.

 

It falls under supporting documents. It would be in 395.11 or there about.

 

I don't remember to be honest. However, that term (supporting documents) might be the key. I think this was a case where any document other than the legally required to be carried was required to be produced by the carrier. I don't think the driver had a regulatory requirement to carry any!

Edited: A great example of this is that rule about passengers. If asked for a letter from the authority holder was required to be shown to DOT. I don't think the driver was required to carry it, only have it available if asked.