Smooth Bore Question

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by OldRed98, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. ChicagoJohn

    ChicagoJohn Road Train Member

    2,387
    2,749
    Jan 14, 2016
    Chicago
    0
    With what we call a "tight fill" tank, the surge will be noticeable, but not overwhelming. If you were putting 5300 gal in a 7000, that's another story. You really need to figure out what your dry weight is, then you'll know what you can load. I have yet to meet anyone pulling tanks who couldn't load 45,000 and still be under 80k. Assuming you can actually load 46,000, that would put you at 5,515 gal and with a tight fill, it would ride nice. As everyone said above me, take it slow and steady down the hill and you'll be fine.
     
    slim shady Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. OldRed98

    OldRed98 Medium Load Member

    308
    251
    Apr 18, 2017
    Colorado
    0
    Thanks ChicagoJohn. Thats what I was hoping to hear.

    You're right, I need to see what my dry weight is. My title's here in colorado have weight listed on them them. but somehow my old Fruehauf belly dump says its 11,300 and my W900 is 17,600... Well my dry weight with less than a half tank (probably 130 gallons) is 37,500. I scale this trailer a lot. Maybe the title is wrong. Not sure why I'm so heavy.

    Title says my Kari Kool tanker is 8000. Say my truck and trailer are 26,000 then I could load the full 5700 tank.

    Either way I've got to get on a scale. I've got some repairs to make on my trailer before taking it out... Hopefully it will be ready in a few weeks. I have to be up and running water come June.
     
  4. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

    3,392
    3,995
    Jan 12, 2011
    Levittown, PA
    0
    Kari Kool made good trailers. if it is insulated, the steel support where the top and belly wrappers meet can rust away. also the subframes are steel; if the outlet opening gets 'tight' to the bumper they are rusted out.

    most carriers switched to stainless subframes for this reason.
     
    OldRed98 Thanks this.
  5. OldRed98

    OldRed98 Medium Load Member

    308
    251
    Apr 18, 2017
    Colorado
    0
    Thanks Wis Bang. I bought this trailer from one of the local counties here in Colorado. They owned it for 10+ years and it was fairly well maintained. However, there is a rusted cross member. Planning to plate the cross member. Hope this is the extent of the rust... It is insulated.

    It was really dirty in this picture.

    tanker.jpg
     
  6. Texas Rebel

    Texas Rebel Light Load Member

    87
    136
    Apr 15, 2018
    Muleshoe,Texas
    0
    just take it easy around curves..
     
    OldRed98 Thanks this.
  7. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

    3,392
    3,995
    Jan 12, 2011
    Levittown, PA
    0
    The frame rails parallel to that cross member and hidden by the wrappers can rust in the same fashion and the tank will start to crush them, hence my warning about the outlet getting close to the bumper.

    make sure that the person who plates the cross-member knows his stuff and uses a thick material. A full load won't slop but will put maximum loading on those frame rails...

    If this is a 'Spec' trailer [the serial number plate will have that listed] any repairs that include welding onto the barrel requires an ASME shop with a R or U stamp to maintain specification.
     
  8. OldRed98

    OldRed98 Medium Load Member

    308
    251
    Apr 18, 2017
    Colorado
    0
    Thanks Wis Bang... I don't see anything that says spec on my serial plate. This is an old trailer. Like 1972.

    I don't even see any ASME shops in my area. If this is not a spec trailer is there a problem with not using an ASME shop? My welder is really good. Went to UTI... Builds race cars. I just don't want to end up finding out I didn't get an R or U stamp on a roadside inspection.
     
  9. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

    3,392
    3,995
    Jan 12, 2011
    Levittown, PA
    0
    If the mfg serial number plate doesn't say MC Spec 303 or 306, etc. it was a non-spec trailer, not specified for haz mats. don't worry about it. even a spec trailer built back then wouldn't always have a U stamp unless it was a higher pressure vessel.
     
    OldRed98 Thanks this.
  10. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

    3,845
    5,130
    Apr 2, 2011
    bismarck, nd
    0
    5300 gallons in a 5700 gallon trailer is not going to be bad at all your feel it moving around a bit but nothing like 5300 gallons in a 9000 gallon tanker.

    my very first ever load in a smooth bore tank was exactly that around 5500 gallons in a 9000 gallon smooth bore tanker at max gross weight. i thought i got rear ended pulling out onto the highway.
     
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2018
    OldRed98 Thanks this.
  11. OldRed98

    OldRed98 Medium Load Member

    308
    251
    Apr 18, 2017
    Colorado
    0
    Man! In that case, I've got nothing to worried about. I'll just be happy its not a 9000 gallon tank. That kind of sloshing weight can't be good for your truck either.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.