Temporary Foreign Workers

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  1. rzl-dzl

    rzl-dzl Medium Load Member

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    what part of it could you consider it being indentured servant?
     
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  3. Tam_Tam

    Tam_Tam Light Load Member

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    Shhhhh. hahaha


    Good point. Sigh.
     
  4. Tam_Tam

    Tam_Tam Light Load Member

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    I posted this under driver shortage rant:
    We don't band together and are separated by the nature of our work. Most of us are too tired to research how to make changes for our industry or to see if it's even possible to make changes.
    I joined OBAC (owner operator's business association of Canada) in 2010 but forgot to renew. I heard next to nothing from the organization that year and the things I did get weren't helpful to our main concerns as people trying for decent work. The organization was mostly into rules, regulations and on board computer news at the time. Oh and of course, that CVSA 2010 USA safety implementation.

    Recently where I am, there was a reforming of the driver employment pyramid. To guard against any form of union, the giant company hired a third party P and D company to manage the operators and paid them a flat rate for services. For long haul they created a third party company to do all the safety, training and wages. This way, a union would just fold the third party or result in a termination of the third parties with contract cancellation and the massive company could hire or create another outside body.
    There had been some talk around in the last few years about trying to format transportation as a trade. First, second, third and fourth year then journeyman. I'm all for this. It would raise the cost of all goods on the market, most likely, and it is understandable that no one but operators would be happy with this format due to decreased profit margins for carriers from paying fair wages.
    There are no welders, plumbers or electricians being lifted from other countries that I know about and our Canadian tradespeople seem pretty satisfied.
    Becoming a trade would result in streamlining our profession into something with set wages and conditions (somewhat depending on commodity). Experience would be paid for in actual dollars and the associations would work for us. The bar would be raised on qualifications to operate and perhaps eliminate the hazards that come from inexperience on the roadway. I would gladly pay dues to join something like this.


    Anybody think we could actually find a way to do this?
     
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  5. Tam_Tam

    Tam_Tam Light Load Member

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  6. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    An LMO is when the employer proves he has tried to fill the positions with a local workforce , when he fails he gets his LMO approval, there are thousands of empty positions in Alberta , there are billboards along the highway, ads in the local papers, radio ads etc, companies here have no choice but to recruit abroad
     
  7. rzl-dzl

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    http://albertacanada.com/immigration/audience/employers-tfw-tradespersons.aspx
     
  8. rzl-dzl

    rzl-dzl Medium Load Member

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    they have another choice.
     
  9. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Which is? No Canadians taking up the jobs
     
  10. bobbyt

    bobbyt Medium Load Member

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    I'm not against an apprentiship, but how would it work. How many years of driving for each level? How would the yearly school and tests work. And would they be the same across Canada. The govt can't get uniform weights across Canada so don't think they will get this sorted out anytime soon.
     
  11. Runawayscreaming

    Runawayscreaming Medium Load Member

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    I am not aware of a single trucking company LMO in Alberta that was not a complete pack of lies. Anyone can cook up an LMO (also known as Lies and My Opinions).

    Trucking companies have a choice to hire Canadians but they do not wish to when the doors are wide open to hire Temporary Foreign Workers. I challenge Canadian citizens to find a trucking job in Alberta. Many of the trucking companies they apply to will reject their job applications because the trucking company is submitting a (fraudulent) LMO. To make matters worse, the oil and gas business in Alberta is going into a down cycle (due to overproduction) and truck drivers and oilfield service workers are losing their jobs.
     
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