Thinking about team driving

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  1. jmarc77

    jmarc77 Light Load Member

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    I've had my CDL since the beginning of June and I'm feeling a bit lost about what to do with it. I started with a flatbed company, the week after I took my CDL test I was in orientation. I thought for sure it was what I wanted to do. Orientation was a week long and went well, then I spent a week and a half with a trainer and I felt okay while I was with my trainer. Exhausted at times to be sure, but I got through it. When I got by myself though, it was downhill from there. I was using my full 14 hours every day, barely sleeping, feeling lost constantly, felt more homesick than I ever had, constantly felt unsure of myself and fearful I was gonna get lost or stuck. The only people I had to talk with were shippers and receivers who were usually super irritable or my dispatcher (when he answered his phone) who I maintain is one of the biggest ######## I've ever come across in my life. It felt like even the company wasn't on my side. There was a multitude of other issues with the company as well but those are for another discussion.

    I tried a local gig (see the Lowe's Home Improvement thread to see how it worked out) that paid well but was a total ####show and a risk to public safety and my license and there was no way I was going to continue with it.

    Now I'm feeling a bit lost. Before getting my license, I really felt that I wanted to do some OTR, or at least regional, flatbed hauling. And I must be honest, I did enjoy hauling those big steel coils and lumber and other things while I was with the flatbed company. It felt awesome going down the road with a 48k pound coil on the deck with a nice, neat tarp job. It was cool to go to all of these big steel mills and factories and see the inside of them. I enjoyed securing loads and making sure it was done right. I felt very proud being able to say I was an OTR truck driver.

    I think I may want to try it again but I feel like maybe I would do better if I had someone with me while I was doing it. I feel that I might do better if I had someone there to work with and help each other out. I liked when I was with my trainer that one person could be doing the paperwork while the other drove, you always had someone to spot you if you needed help backing, one could double check maps or directions or make a phone call while the other drove, one could check in while the other was untarping or setting up, etc. Two heads are better than one kinda thing.

    I don't know a whole lot about team driving. I know one guy is on duty while the other is off so the truck stays rolling, but do team drivers help each other out with this kinda stuff or is it strictly one in the sleeper berth, one on duty? Does team sound like it might be a good idea or am I misunderstanding how teams really work?
     
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  3. pumpkinishere

    pumpkinishere Heavy Load Member

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    Wow you are braver than I am. My husband and I run team flatbed and have done so about 10 months maybe closer to a year and we haven’t hauled coils yet. We have stayed away from coils just because those things come lose chances are your a goner. Anyways, team running. Well most of the time your right one is in the sleeper and one is driving. I guess it really depends on how much sleep one needs as to how much they sit up with you. I’m not sure how many company drivers of flatbeds are teams, you could always inquire about your interest in becoming a team driver and see what the company says. It sounds to me like you were feeling like you needed a little longer with your driver trainer and that is ok, just because they say you will have a driver trainer for a week and that week is over if your not feeling it you can request to have the driver trainer longer, they will allow you to do so. The thing about teaming with someone you just met you don’t know any of their habits, smoking, dirty, stinky feet what have you, but you could always give it a try and if you don’t like it tell them teaming is not working out. Remember those company’s need you to drive so you have to be honest tell them what you want or what your feeling, chances are they will work with you to get you better suited to what your looking for.
     
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    jmarc77 Light Load Member

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    I got to be fairly comfortable hauling coils. I hauled a lot of them- suicide, shotgun, skidded, double suicides. Secure them right, do your load checks and they won't move.

    Living in close quarters with another person is kinda why I never really looked into teams. Other people are gross, lol. I didn't think it would suit me. But I think being solo might suit me even less. I'm just trying to spitball ideas right now.
     
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  5. T2012

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    If you're working full 12 hour 600 mile shifts day after day or night after night, you're probably gonna need to be sleeping when off duty rather than checking maps or doing paperwork or helping to back. I definitely wouldn't be in any shape to drive my shift if I was on call during my break as well.

    It probably won't be like your experience with a trainer. The pace is slowed down with a trainer...you're not alternating 600 mile shifts at the wheel, other than maybe a few days at the end, and your job descriptions are different throughout...you're not equals. A regular team is two experienced equals.

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    jmarc77 Light Load Member

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    I get it. My experience with a trainer was this. My trainer didn't slow down much if at all for me, and he told me this. "Wheels are turning" he would say, meaning he was up and moving on schedule whether I was ready/awake/alive or not. We ran our clocks together for the first few days, after that we took shifts. He'd sleep for a few hours while I drove and then once we were close to our destination, he'd get up and sit in the passenger seat. We'd both tarp/strap/load and once we were rolling again, he'd sleep and I'd drive until we got to where we were going or i ran out of hours.

    I don't expect someone to be there to hold my hand, nor is that what I want, but I was hoping that if you have two bodies that both guys would work together some of the time especially in situations when it helps to have an extra person.
     
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  7. Chinatown

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    Right, log sleeper berth when you're supposed to. I used to do that, but still sat in the passenger seat and BS's with my buddy. We got along great ,both in the Navy at the same time and his wife and my wife are cousins.
     
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    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    You still live near Pittsburgh?
    There's some decent team jobs around there doing West Coast turns.
     
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  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Each team is different. My dad had been an OTR driver. My brother and I went with him on a couple of trips while in middle school. My 8 weeks with my trainer were among the hardest I had in my 28 years of trucking. My trainer was great, we got along, never argued, I just could not sleep in the truck more than 2 hours if that. I would lay in the bunk more tired than I had ever been and the movement of the truck and the potholes would wake me up every few minutes. It was brutal. My first month OTR on my own was also difficult back before there was GPS or cellphones. It was real lonely, mostly because cellphones were rare and expensive. I went back to my previous job that I hated so much, I chucked it and wen to CDL school.

    My second job in trucking OTR with my pet dog was mostly fun. The dog was a companion, something to think about besides "poor me" and a great truck alarm. Make friends with someone during orientation if you can. My trainers always gave me their phone numbers to use to ask questions. You might only need a person to talk to about how you feel or an experienced driver to ask about how to handle common situations that aren't covered in training, like a customer located on a street with "No Trucks Allowed" sign, getting a good satellite view of the customer property before you drive to it, or how to check the reviews on Google Maps for a customer and see what important info drivers have posted for others. Those kind of things helped me out a lot. On Google maps search for the customer name in the city and also on the street address without the customer name. Companies are bought and sometimes your dispatch is to ABC Foods and 123 Main, but 123 Main was Smith Processing for the last 10 years until they were bought last month.

    I would not team because that other person has strong opinions about things and it more like a marriage than somebody you work with, not to mention there are some bad drivers and waking up on the wrong side of a guardrail because the driver was playing with his phone can ruin your life. Pets are better than a team driver because they don't play the radio loud, play on the phone or care what restaurant you eat in. I'd get a pet that is already housebroken.
     
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  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    That's how I viewed HazMat tanker. Drive it like you were trained, no shortcuts, double-check the important stuff, and don't be an idiot. Anyone losing their load driving a truck is not going to have an easy time, so do everything like you are trained. Personally I did dry van and hardly ever cared what was in the back. I didn't care if there were baby giraffes, or zombie midgets. Freight is freight. Don't forget to close the doors.
     
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  11. Chinatown

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    Home - Calex ISCS
    58 Pittston Avenue Pittston, PA

    Runs teams to California and back.
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