Im fairly certain all 9 speeds can become 13speeds by putting on a 3 speed auxiliary box.
Call trevor at betterbilt transmission on rocus st in springfield. Been a roadranger rebuilder all his life.
What kinda shifting tips you looking for?
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Our interest in this particular tractor is shared with a driver that lives nearby and, in fact, he would like to use it to pull refrigerated loads from Westfield, MA to Long Island, NY. I've actually traveled this route with the driver I'm referring to and, unlike our area, there is only one hill on the route that even comes close to those around here...and this begs the obvious question (in my mind): Are extra gears also an advantage over the relatively flat grades found on the route I just described?
In short, I'm wondering if a tractor powered by a 3406B through an E-F RTX-14609R (9-speed) and 4:11 gears is a decent setup for both the flats and the hills. My feeling is that it isn't...but, as ever, I'm here to learn. Please feel free to weigh-in on whether or not this tractor could be modified in some way to make it a decent all-rounder.
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The auxialliary section is the "back half."
So youve got your main box. Reverse and low hole on one rail. First and second on the middle. Third and fourth on the other. Thats 1R and 5F gears in the main box. The auxilliary has a reduction gear (low range) and a high gear (direct). That gives you 2 reverse and 10 forward except low hole isnt to be used on the high side on a 9 speed. Some say its not strong enough but ive been in a few RR's and cant see how its any weaker. The issue IMO is it doesnt match the shift progression to the next gear. So this is your "nine speed" .. Its a 5speed trans with a 2 speed rear except the 2 speed is in the tranny back half. About 500rpm steps per gear.
13 speed has a 3 speed "rear." 3rd gear in the aux box is only useable when in high range, and it gives half a gear difference than direct. I think theyre all overdrive, not certain. This means the top 4 gears can be climbed in half steps.. So you have 8 gears on the high side. You can go from 5 to 6 or from 5 to 5-1/2 so to speak.
It makes a huge difference especially in hills, think of an elderly woman climbing steps. Fewer the steps harder she has to work to get upstairs. This 3rd range gear is the "splitter." Low hole on the high side can physically be split also but again its taboo. I do it all the time in my medium duty but what do i know.
An RTOO does indeed have three od ratios. 7th under is direct and the most efficient gear. Power flows straight through at a 1:1 input to output speed. I believe the front box countershafts are overdriven as well as the mainbox top gear (on mine its against the dash, "U pattern")
Dont do the 4 / 5 gear flip in the main box to get an OD like old schoolers did. Itll mess up the shift spacing at the spot where you really need a seamless shift to maintain all the speed you can on rolling interstate hills.
I run an RTOO 1.0/.86/.74/.62 with 4.63 rear and 37" rubber and its great, loves interstate. Has low like an 8LL and still goes 80 not even close to governor. But again, medium duty, i gross 45k or less and im always in mountains. They do whine a bit more.
If youll be taking 8 south to 84 theres a good hill out of waterbury right at the onramp. Not too bad otherwise, just a lot of tolls in NJ.Last edited: Nov 16, 2017
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Still alive and breathing ... Does anyone on this old thread have any words of wisdom about the Detroit Diesel 60-series 14L engines? There's an '05 Freightliner Columbia that seems to be a steal nearby, but, as you all [might] remember, we never really discussed much about DD engines on this thread. As ever, thanks for your sage advice...and all the best to all of you out there between the those long twin white lines.
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