Trainers vs Trainees

The government says he's licensed...........he's good to go.

At the scale house a valid license makes him the same as you in the eyes of the law.

The freight he hauls pays the same rate as if you hauled it.

Drivers need to accept the fact that once a guy is licensed he's one of you.Period. New Drivers need to start saying "My license is worth no less than the guy beside me and I need to make a living out here". No more telling new drivers "you need to pay your dues"...........they're licensed.........the government says there are no dues to pay,go drive.
You can throw out some arbitrary number of years before someone becomes "a pro" but as far as companies are concerned a driver is a driver.
There is not one company out there that will tell you that they are in the business of training drivers.........they're in business to make money and if it means "dupping" some guy into a training program so they can get him to run team,then so be it.

If this industry believes that drivers are in need of additional training before they be let out on their own...........driving needs to be made a Trade. Otherwise the whole training angle is just to get cheap drivers in the seat by lowballing them.

 

Down the road..... you are entitled that opinion but its wrong.....A CDL does make a driver qualified....training and experience make him a driver. Qualified and licensed doesn't equate to safe and competent.

 

Down the Road, apparently you need to realize people can not just jump in a truck and go. It more to just steering the truck. Trucker you say Trucking Industry I would think you are not a driver by your statements for you sound clueless.


For the OP, tell him not to give up, the others has given him some good advice.

 

Shucks....title of this thread made me believe this was the next WWE cage match!

 

hey dont be discouraged by one company. as a trainer you can always find faults with someones performance. but this sounds like this may have been more of a personality conflict and if he has no crashes, no tickets and is insurable 100's of places will hire him. happy trails

 

The government gave the individual a license.........HE CAN,BY LAW, JUST JUMP IN A TRUCK AND GO. That is a fact. Without argument.


I work in operations.
I have driven and what I see in this industry is companies wanting to flood the market with cheap labour.
Why do I care about this or enough about you to tell you about it?
Simple. If the market is flooded with drivers and wages drop because of it. Freight rates will follow suit and that puts tremendous preasure on smaller carriers like ours to maintain benefits and standard of living for our drivers while employed here. We make money on the rates of the freight not on the volume we move. We require a considerably stronger rate than what Swift or Werner require in order to keep afloat.

Guys like you, your attitude and lack of forward thinking are the direct reason we are seeing this industries carriers participate in a race to the bottom in order to maintain market share.
They do this by telling the government there is a driver shortage. In turn the government refuses to properly train drivers,simply because they must keep up with demand or the economy will suffer. Hell.........companies are even looking to import drivers from other countries because they cannot drive down rates fast enough to hold onto market share.

Ask yourself a few questions:

Are companies spending money on training drivers without considering compensation for themselves?
They say "train drivers" then put a contract in front of them to work a reduced wage. I would say "no thanks.......I already paid for my license".

If drivers need a higher level of training and companies are currently unhappy paying for it,why don't they just aproach the Government and demand a better product that they aren't required to subsidise? Simple,because the companies like the idea of arbitrarily being able to say "ok....your trained....we need this load in tuck tayuck tuck by tomorrow........see ya" OR "Sorry,you need more training,here's your new trainer and you'll be with him for the next 3 months". Then they hold the DAC system over their heads to get them to comply.

Trucking companies are in business to make money,not train drivers. Show me any driver in a training program that makes the same wages as a single running down the road.

 

Not to sound harsh, but I just don't understand when trainees realize they aren't getting the proper training they just keep their mouths shut and just do whatever they are ordered to do like a dog. Any credible company will listen to a trainee having problems and if they don't do anything about it and the trainee douments everything, they are opening themselves up for one heck of a lawsuit. Hubby should realize that if he wasn't comfortable he should have said something. Not defending the trainers actions at all,but its trainees who don't say anything than want to blame the trainer after the fact is what is help8ng to enable the problem

 

Sounds like a great title to a new reality show.

sent from my Galaxy Tab2

 

yes you have a license and legally you should be able to go to work and drive the companies will make their own rules if you want to work for them and thats where the problem seems to start. i agree if a company has specialized or hazmat freight they do need to do additional training. but some of thease companies will say you need to train [which is code for team] for weeks just to get cheaper labor

 

Tony, we (you and I) didn't go to trucking school. We didn't ride with a trainer for 6 weeks. I know that nowadays that most bottom feeder companies have their training programs, but how effective can they be if they allow people to train with less than 5 years OTR? Is the Dumb and Dumber program the best way? I am not convinced that it is.