Unavoidable overweight's

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Logan76, May 22, 2011.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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  3. rightlane4trucking

    rightlane4trucking Light Load Member

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    Meltom.
    The link that you provided yields SMS Methodolgy 1.2 (dated April 2009)...that's a couple of revisions old. SMS Methodology 2.1 (dated December 2010) is the most recent. Overweight violations have been removed from the Cargo Loading and Securement BASIC. JakeBrake12 is correct...no CSA points for overwight violations.
     
  4. rightlane4trucking

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    Meltom,
    The Landline Magazine article that your link goes to contains SMS Methodology 1.2 (dated April 2009). It's a couple of revisions old. In the latest SMS Methodology 2.1 (dated December 2010) overweight violations have been removed from the Cargo Loading and Securement BASIC. JakeBrake is correct...no CSA points for overweight violations.

    Sorry, couldn't make it go away. :biggrin_25523:
     
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  5. Jfaulk99

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    I love these clueless drivers that preach "no such thing as an unavoidable overweight". $100 says they pull a dry van with 40k in the box max. :biggrin_25526:

    Take a dump full of scrap, grain hopper, load of logs ect. Park them in a lot side by side and have any of these "legal Larry's" tell you what they weigh. Now have them hook to them and send them 40 miles out of the way to a set of scales (on they're dime). Now legal larry what do you do when you get to the scales and it's overweight? Climb inside and start pitching chunks of scrap steel over the side? Maybe you could get a chain saw and start cutting the logs up to lose 2k lbs? Or you could drive illegally back to the yard to lose the extra weight? Remember, according to these guys there's no such thing as an unavoidable overweight ticket.
     
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  6. king Q

    king Q Road Train Member

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    IMO an unavoidable overload has to be qualified.

    Of course theoretically there is no such thing.

    It all comes down to money.

    Any thing and everything that a truck can haul can be weighed if cost was no factor.

    If a man can be put on the moon then this can be accomplished.

    It is just totally out of the question economically sometimes.
     
  7. bellydumper

    bellydumper Light Load Member

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    Dont worry about it since your not paying the tickets!
     
  8. freightlinerman

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    NO excuse. Tell the customer, if they over load they will have to unload them selves, OR you can call someone out with the proper equipment to pick weight out, place in another container and bill the customer for the equipment to come out and the second container.

    If you don't do anything about it, they will keep it up. IF they don't know there is a problem, you TELL them there is a problem. It just sounds really ignorant when you say you can't do anything to help it. Why do you think trucks roll over, or crash into another vehicle because they can't safely stop, blow tires or damage suspension components because they are over loaded?? NO excuse for it. It's only an excuse because you and your company make an excuse and the customer is walking all over you, if you don't put a stop to it, who will?
     
  9. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    PS I think if you're over weight, you can get CSA points?
     
  10. kwswan

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    One thing you forgot to mention are the livestock haulers.
    When you load on the farm out in the country & there are 50k pounds of bawling calves standing there & you can only scale 47k you will load them or you will leave.
    If you leave that will end your cattle hauling career.
    Sometimes you do what has to be done whether you agree with it or not.
    I never liked the idea of loading & being overweight,but that was part of the job & i knew it.
    You freight haulers need to come to the real world & see how things work.
     
  11. Jfaulk99

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    That's no excuse!!! You should take each one for a long walk and try and lose that 3K lbs. Also you need to train each one to hold still so they can get an accurate weight at the truck scales. I mean come on, don't you care about safety? Don't you know that your truck is as safe as nice cool pillow at 80,000#.....but at 83,000# it's a deadly machine just inches away from causing complete destruction.:biggrin_25522:

    Like I said everyone on here who is clueless enough to claim there is no such thing as an unavoidable overweight is probably pulling a 53' van loaded completely full with 5,000# of potato chips or toilet paper.

    Again I pose the question: You pull into the customers lot and hook to the loaded trailer. You have a choice, turn left and drive out of the way to the scales or turn right and proceed to your destination?
     
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