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Unsecured load

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by m16ty, Apr 20, 2017.

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  1. Apr 21, 2017 #41
    m16ty

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    In my position, I can't really tell a driver, who doesn't work for me, how to secure a load. I can tell them if I see something they are doing wrong but I have to be really careful about telling them how to do it in detail.

    If I tell a driver how to secure the load and something happens, guess who just opened himself up to liability? There are bloodthirsty lawyers all over this country, chomping at the bit to sue trucking companies and anybody else that had involvement with the shipment. If I tell a driver how to secure a load and something happens, I just opened myself up to more liability.
     
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  3. Apr 21, 2017 #42
    TripleSix

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    Handholding truck drivers is the most unsafe thing you can do in transportation.
     
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  4. Apr 21, 2017 #43
    RGN

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    A little different situation (because of construction site GC liability for subs), but along the lines of what @m16ty said about telling drivers how to do stuff-
    I'm working on qualifying as a transportation vendor for an outside plant services outfit. Part of the process is submitting your safety/compliance/training plan, then talking to their Safety Director. During the looong conversation he says when you are on the road you are someone else's problem, but in their facilities and work zones it's a different story. Their employees are told to not tell drivers how to correct any problems they see (the liability thing), just 'stop' and let the site safety person know and they will deal with it. If they determine a lack of knowledge, inadequate equipment, clearly operating in an unsafe manner, etc. the driver will be escorted off the site & the company removed from the vendors list. Forever.
     
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  5. Apr 21, 2017 #44
    bigguns

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    I think @m16ty went way beyond his job (and responsibilty to load the piece). He was hired to load it. He did that. Then he took a big risk in liability by giving advise on securing the piece. End of story. Imo. He also has pictures as proof. lol
     
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  7. Apr 21, 2017 #45
    sdaniel

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    OP sound like you did everything you could short of calling DOT for them to intercept him.
     
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  8. Apr 21, 2017 #46
    cnsper

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    Dot regulations and keeping the piece in place are different things. May have been totally legal by regulation but still unsafe.
     
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  9. Apr 21, 2017 #47
    noluck

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    I don't think you should hold their hand. But, if there is a special way the customer wants thing done to prevent damage or what ever. That should be taken to account, and again if it's feasible the driver should do it. A happy customer calls back.
     
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  10. Apr 21, 2017 #48
    TripleSix

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    Best solution: Fire the broker.

    Talent costs money. Broker is taking all the money and hiring scum sucking, bottom of the barrel stick and brick hauler's.
     
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  11. Apr 21, 2017 #49
    noluck

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    More than likely the broker was in over his head. Next time get a broker that specialize in the abnormal. They will find a driver who does.
     
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  12. Apr 21, 2017 #50
    aussiejosh

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    I keep saying bring a few aussies or kiwi's over but keep getting rebuked we all speak read and write English better then you blokes.
     
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