Using your rig for personal use

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by SteveScott, Jul 11, 2021.

  1. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Not for hire wouldn't allow for not needing bills hauling his own goods? Or family.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    And let's not forget that DOT will pull one in faster as it has no legal meaning and they will wonder what you are trying to avoid.

    Not really. Not for hire has mo legal meaning. You can do the exact same thing with the sign as without, but with more DOT scrutiny as they will be wondering what you are trying to hide.
     
  4. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    Make the run at night.
     
  5. Rideandrepair

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    I saw a Truck today, said Recreational Use. Not for hire. I know there’s no Legal meaning, but still better than Nothing IMO. At least the DOT has an idea what to expect. Nothing at all seems wound arise more suspicion. I don’t think I’d bother with that, in your situation. If it’s you’re Own Authority, No Sweat. Make out a Legal BOL. Brother in law is the Shipper, and Receiver. As far as household goods in description. A lot of it’s probably boxed, it’s FAK. Make the trip, and file it like any other load, keeping fuel receipts and mileage for Ifta. You’ll have you’re normal write offs for fuel, etc. The money from in law is the pay. No Law saying how much you need to charge. Won’t be any problems, unless your in-law files a claim against you for damages. Lol. Or you can also make it disappear afterwards. That’s your call. I’d rather at least be able to document everything into records, should you have a run in with DOT, and be able to cover your ###. I’ve hauled a few cars I’ve bought home, in my dry van. I make out a BOL with Myself as Shipper and Receiver. Just to avoid hassles. Most DOT wouldn’t question it, my Truck, Trailer, car. But there’s always the chance of that one Regulations Scholar. If you’re Leased onto a Carrier, obviously best to be upfront, get permission to use their Trailer, verifiable at least via a phone call, if not documented. Ask their advice, and follow it. But if you’re hauling it on the sly, which I suspect, better make everything look Legit. You’re taking a risk. Can’t haul anything under someone’s Authority, without their knowledge. As far as personal use, with you’re Authority, or permission from Permit holder. I don’t see why not. In that case it’s you’re property period. Given to you, bought, or salvaged from the city dump. Doesn’t matter, Might help if plate on Trucks in your name, for personal use. If on the sly, at that point, does it even matter? I’m reminded of a Co Worker who hauled a Live pig from Wisconsin home to Kentucky, along with his empty Automotive racks, with a company Truck and Trailer. Poor Pig, made quite a mess in the Trailer. GM never knew anything, nor did the Company. Weekend run of course. I was asked once, to move in-laws from Mi. to California, at cost of course. My answer was, I’d be better off paying for the move, and keep working myself. They had no idea of all the time, effort, and real cost involved. How would they know? Good Luck, be safe. If your in-laws like mine, he’ll show up with 2 cases of beer for the trip. Fun Fun. Happened to Me once, and I don’t even drink. He explained it was non alcoholic, he was on the wagon. Yeah whatever, still has enough alcohol to land Me in Jail. How would he know?
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    Do not put NOT FOR HIRE on your truck unless the truck is owned by a company that produces a product and you are hauling ONLY that product outbound to a customer or processor.

    THIS only indicates to an enforcement officer you are not hauling for compensation of other products and is pretty much meaningless.

    The truck has to be owned by the company that produces the product, it can not be anyone else’s.

    However, there is an exception to it, inbound product to produce the company’s product or support the company can be considered not for hire freight, but only inbound that the company ownes.

    if guys want to challenge this, contact a transportation lawyer, even a maritime specialist and they can break it down for you.
     
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  7. roundhouse

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    Some company advertises hauling household goods with their double trailers
    ABF or R&L maybe ?
    They drop the trailer off at your house , you load it , they come hitch up and deliver the trailer to the new location.
     
  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I-40 does not go through Atlanta. But I-40 is pretty much 75 mph from Cali through Oklahoma. 70 mph from Arkansas east. You can run 40 until Ashville, NC and then drop down. Or run 40 to Memphis, run I-22 down to Birmingham, then I-20 to Atlanta and up I-85. I would miss Atlanta if I could.
     
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  9. SteveScott

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    Looks like I'd take 40 to Memphis, 22 to Birmingham, 20 to Atlanta, then 85 up to Greenville. I don't see a way around Atlanta. Am I missing something?
     
  10. SteveScott

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    I own the equipment and have my own authority. Ok, so no "NOT FOR HIRE" signs on the truck. So as long as I create a BOL showing me as the shipper and receiver, I should be good? For anybody who asks, I just bought a second house in SC and I'm taking some things there. Not really worried about the scale houses unless I'm doing something wrong, which it sounds like I'm not.
     
  11. ZVar

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    I still would not write out a BOL. If you do get stopped it would toss up questions on why you have one and claiming personal use. Especially since household goods triggers alll sorts of special regulations.
    As no one has mentioned it, your best bet would be to call a scale house or two along the route and explain to the officer what you want to do and any possible limitations doing it.
     
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