Western star speedo problem

Discussion in 'Western Star Forum' started by Heavyhaulsteve, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. Heavyhaulsteve

    Heavyhaulsteve Bobtail Member

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    I have a 05 western star. It's got a 60 series Detroit and a 13 speed. My problem is when I split the high side of the trans the speedo freezes and drops to zero and the check engine lite comes on and derates. I have had the vss, the vss wiring to the ECM, and the ECM changed and its still does it any ideas? Thanks steve
     
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  3. underpsi

    underpsi Road Train Member

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    So only when your in OD it does this?
     
  4. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    What code is it throwing? If no code, it could be the voltage to the ECM. Could it be starving for fuel?
     
  5. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Most likely code ring is moving to far from the speed sensor, as it's possible the output shaft is moving around enough to cause issues. High split is direct and removing the thrust load could let output move far enough if the tranny is wore out. Put it in high split and see how how much play you have at the yoke.
     
  6. Heavyhaulsteve

    Heavyhaulsteve Bobtail Member

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    It does it in 6 and 7 going from direct to od and it was throwing a code for the vss
     
  7. Heavyhaulsteve

    Heavyhaulsteve Bobtail Member

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    And it doesn't seem to be starving for fuel it has plenty of power
     
  8. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Yeah my theories were only valid if it was happening from low to high, not direct to OD
     
  9. Heavyhaulsteve

    Heavyhaulsteve Bobtail Member

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    Also the biggest thing that's stumping every one is that if I shift it like its a 10 speed and don't split the high gears it doesn't do it
     
  10. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Steve, something is moving fore and aft when the splitter shifts. Either the case or the shaft. The VSS is losing the signal from the shaft. The derate is to prevent tampering with the speed governor, of course.
     
  11. Heavyhaulsteve

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    So then ill have to have them check the tone ring and the output shaft then thanks guys for your help
     
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